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Brightwell Manor from the village churchyard in 2008

• ... that William Inge's wife thought Brightwell Manor (pictured) "a most attractive house but rather small"?
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Fortress of the Bear
  • Comment: Hook only really works with the picture - most people would not think the house small.

Created by Edwardx (talk), KJP1 (talk), and Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Edwardx (talk) at 23:20, 24 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Brightwell Manor; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• I'll review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:42, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New Enough: Y Long Enough: Y

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Y Neutral: Y Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: Y

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Y Interesting: Y

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Y Used in article: Y Clear at 100px: Y

QPQ: Done.

Overall: @Edwardx: Nominated a little late but I'm fine with that – long enough, although just barely, neutral and sourced. Doesn't appear to be a copyvio and the pic is nice and meets the criteria. QPQ done. The only issue is that the hook needs to be sourced in the article (the sentence His wife wrote in her diary "It is a most attractive house but rather small." and that she had written to Paul Edward Paget and his partner John Seely (later John Seely, 2nd Baron Mottistone) about adding to it needs a reference) – and could you show me which source says that? Thanks. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:54, 24 February 2023 (UTC) BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:54, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

• Thank you, BeanieFan11. If you search Google Books for "Brightwell Manor most attractive house but rather small" it will come up. It is on p236 of Adam Fox's 1960 book about Inge. But, I'm struggling to add the ref correctly to the article itself, such that you can click through to it from there. Edwardx (talk) 00:03, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

I see now. Also, I've added the ref for that sentence, as the DYK rules require, so now it appears to be good to go! BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:06, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

It doesn't seem like google books gives many people access to that book, only through the snipping view. So I don't think there's a way you could add it allowing people to read it. BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:09, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

BeanieFan11, it only gives me a snipping view too, but it is enough to show the salient fact in support of the hook. Edwardx (talk) 00:16, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

I gave the hook a tweak. Philafrenzy (talk) 17:37, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

The original hook is making a small joke that only works in the top spot, but really the content of the hook isn't weighty enough to support that position. We should also attribute the words properly to the author, Mary Inge, or be accused of sexism. What about:

ALT1 ... that Brightwell Manor (pictured) was the home of a eugenicist clergyman who did not believe in democracy, or women's rights? Article would need expanding in this respect.

ALT2 ... that Boris Johnson has agreed to buy Brightwell Manor (pictured) which was once in the ownership of a eugenicist clergyman who did not believe in democracy, or women's rights? Philafrenzy (talk) 18:51, 25 February 2023 (UTC)