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Section # of Hooks # Verified
December 17 1
December 22 1 1
December 28 1 1
December 31 3 2
January 2 1
January 3 2 1
January 4 1
January 5 1 1
January 9 1
January 11 2
January 12 1
January 15 2 1
January 17 1
January 18 1 1
January 19 1 1
January 20 2 1
January 21 1 1
January 23 1
January 24 1 1
January 25 2
January 26 2 1
January 27 2 1
January 28 2
January 29 5 3
January 30 5
January 31 6 3
February 1 3 2
February 2 1 1
February 3 3 1
February 4 4 2
February 5 6 5
February 6 2 2
February 7 2 1
February 9 2
February 10 4 4
February 12 11 6
February 13 2 2
February 14 4 2
February 15 4 4
February 16 6 4
February 17 7 5
February 18 4 3
February 19 8 4
February 20 5 3
February 21 11 10
February 22 9 4
February 23 6 2
February 24 7 3
February 25 7 4
February 26 8 7
February 27 10 9
February 28 4 1
March 1 4
March 2 6
March 3 3
March 4 2
March 5 3
March 6 6
March 7 4
March 8 3 1
March 9 2
March 10 5
March 11
Total 227 112
Last updated 12:42, 11 March 2023 UTC
Current time is 00:53, 5 Novembala 2024 UTC [refresh]

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Do not nominate articles in this section—nominate all articles in the nominations section on the regular nominations page, under the date on which the article was created or moved to mainspace, or the expansion began, or it was listed as a Good Article; be sure to indicate in the nomination any request for a specially timed appearance on the main page.
Note: Articles intended to be held for special occasion dates should be nominated within seven days of creation, start of expansion, or promotion to Good Article status. The nomination should be made between at least one week prior to the occasion date, to allow time for reviews and promotions through the prep and queue sets, but not more than six weeks in advance. The proposed occasion must be deemed sufficiently special by reviewers. The timeline limitations, including the six week maximum, may be waived by consensus, if a request is made at WT:DYK, but requests are not always successful. Discussion clarifying the hold criteria can be found here: [1]; discussion setting the six week limit can be found here: [2].
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March 23 or 24

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Johnny Weir

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U.S. figure skater Johnny Weir in 2010

Improved to Good Article status by Figureskatingfan (talk). Self-nominated at 20:07, 20 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Johnny Weir; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  • Promoted to GA less than 7 days ago so new enough, hook is properly sourced and formatted, copyvio came up fine. Personally I prefer ALT1. Just waiting on QPQ and you should be good to go.--🚂Locomotive207-talk🚂 22:44, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
User:Locomotive207, thanks for the quick review. QPQ done now. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 04:30, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

QPQ done, ALT1 is good to go.  --🚂Locomotive207-talk🚂 16:56, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

@Figureskatingfan and Locomotive207: Hi guys – shouldn't ALT1 say 2006 instead of 2004? The first paragraph of the lead also says 2004, so I'm not entirely sure if this is a mistake or if I'm missing something. Also, I've edited the hook to say "first male skater" rather than simply "first skater", to bring it in line with the source. Sojourner in the earth (talk) 18:11, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
It was an error in the lead I can't believe no one caught so far, so thanks for catching it. I have corrected it in the lead and fixed the hook here. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 19:06, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
@Figureskatingfan, Locomotive207, and Sojourner in the earth: The primary source (Weir, Johnny (2011). Welcome to My World. New York: Simon & Schuster) is used for 76 separate citations in the article. It might be hard to claim neutrality when our article leans so heavily on a memoir of the subject. I would ask for a second opinion of BlueMoonset. The request is for March 23-24 so wwe have some time. Bruxton (talk) 19:29, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
Bruxton, I'm not an expert on BLPs, and know very little about Weir, but I'd say that it matters more what types of information the autobiography is being used for, and whether the other 75% of article citations sufficiently balance the 25% from his bio. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:11, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
BlueMoonset Thank you, It is always dood to get another opinion. Bruxton (talk) 02:15, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
Yes, thank you BlueMoonset. I believe that this bio does exactly as you say. Yes, the Weir memoir is used a lot in this bio, but mostly to supplement other sources. According to my count, the memoir is used 28 times as a stand-alone ref, whereas the other times other sources support the same content. Additionally, according to this, books published by established publishers aren't self-published (Weir's is published by Simon & Schuster). That can be interpreted in different ways, but my interpretation is that it's okay to use memoirs, as long as it's done sparingly and when necessary. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 04:28, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
@Figureskatingfan: I never said "self published" I said memoir. And a memoir is a person writing about themself, which is why neutrality is tainted. Bruxton (talk) 05:01, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
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 Bruxton raises a legitimate concern, so I've done a reasonably thorough review. The upshot is that I don't think there's any issues here that ought to be a blocker for DYK. As Christine says, the autobiography is mostly used to supplement other sources. Where it is used as a stand-alone ref, this is mostly to support direct quotes from Weir or generally subjective information; for example, the paragraph about the swan routine relies heavily on the autobio, but this is not inappropriate because the paragraph is discussing Weir's own thoughts on the routine.
In some instances where Weir's book is the only source for factual information, I found this same information substantiated in the surrounding refs. In other cases, I didn't find the information elsewhere, and I've listed those instances below, though I want to reiterate that none of this is DYK-blocking.
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The following pieces of information are, in my view, uncontroversial and not unduly self-serving, so are fine to be sourced to the autobiography:

  • his Shetland pony, Shadow – Another source in this paragraph gives the name of the horse as My Blue Shadow, but Weir is more likely to be a reliable source for this.
  • His family moved to New Britain, Connecticut, so he could train.
  • Weir's friend and fellow skater Sasha Cohen helped him contact Tarasova, who waived her fees for him.
  • Weir's trip to Japan marked the first time he came "face-to-face" with Johnny's Angels, a group of figure skating fans who supported Weir emotionally and financially – This could do with some clarification, whether the Angels are a particular group of fans or just his fans in general.
  • Weir toured again with Champions on Ice in-between seasons, his longest tour with them to date; he chose Frank Sinatra's "My Way", "for its obvious symbolism", as his performance number
  • His free skating program, in which he portrayed the life of Christ, was the weakest of the season; Weir disliked his costume and his program did not go over well with spectators and judges.
  • Despite severe back pain ... Weir had not skated a full program in practice for almost two weeks due to his back pain – Weir says that he kept his back pain a secret, so it's unlikely to be mentioned in any secondary sources.
  • It was Weir's lowest result in the short program as a senior skater at a Nationals in his career

A few things that could do with better sourcing:

  • Despite protests from Weir's fans and the media, including charges of homophobia, the results stood – Weir's account of this incident is obviously biased in his favour, while the secondary sources cited in the article don't seem to indicate that the outcome was unfair. It would be better to have a secondary source for the claimed media protests.
  • Despite his loss, Weir was chosen as favorite skater of the year by the readers of U.S. Figure Skating's Skating Magazine – A potentially self-serving claim that could conceivably be sourced directly to the magazine instead.
  • The paragraph beginning In the fall of 2011 is sourced only to Weir p. 233, which supports his choice of "Poker Face" and his admiration of Gaga but none of the other content in that paragraph.

— Sojourner in the earth (talk) 09:23, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

I agree with you @Sojourner in the earth:. You really went out of your way for that analysis and I I see that he made himself look better a few times. The article is well written and I am going to move it to the special holding area for the dates requested. Hope that the editors will consider working through your analysis of sources they might consider replacing. Bruxton (talk) 15:15, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
Yes @Sojourner in the earth: thanks for the feedback and thanks @Bruxton: for the promotion. I will take the feedback into consideration if I were ever to bring this bio to FAC. Which I doubt, because to be honest, figure skating bios, about both male and female skaters, tend to be difficult to get through peer reviews and one has to be able to be in a place to expend the emotional labor to manage it. For me, I'm currently out of that energy, mostly due to recent experiences with these bios. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 16:13, 23 February 2023 (UTC)



March 25

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Bapaume town hall explosion

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Rescue and recovery after the explosion
  • ... that two members of the French parliament were killed when a delayed-action German bomb exploded in the town hall at Bapaume on 25 March 1917 (aftermath pictured)? Source: "a delayed-action bomb even exploded on 25 March killing two members of the French Parliament" from: Holt, Tonie; Holt, Valmai (30 June 2016). Somme 100th Anniversary (in English). Pen and Sword. p. 498. ISBN 978-1-4738-6674-4.

Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 10:52, 23 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Bapaume town hall explosion; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   @Epicgenius: Good article. Onegreatjoke (talk) 20:50, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

@Onegreatjoke: I think you meant to ping Dumelow...   Epicgenius (talk) 23:10, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
Dang it, my bad. I have a review of a nom I did of yours on a tab that I copy and paste to other reviews to make things easier and it happens to have your username pinged on it. Onegreatjoke (talk) 23:20, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

April 23 (Day of event)

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2023 London Marathon

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  • ... that the elite men's event at today's London Marathon will feature four of the fastest five competitors of all time? Source: [6]
    • ALT1: ... that today's London Marathon will be the first time that the event has been held in spring since 2019? Source: [7]
    • ALT2: ... that today's London Marathon will be the first time in the history of the event that competitors could register to compete as non-binary? Source: [8]
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Shakespeare's influence on Tolkien
    • Comment: Date request: 23 April 2023 (day of event), as this is more than 6 weeks from today, I will request consensus for this date request at WT:DYK. All hooks can be changed from "today's London Marathon" to "the 2023 London Marathon" if not run on that date. Will re-check nearer the time whether ALT0 is still valid (as it may not be if runners withdraw)

Moved to mainspace by Joseph2302 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:47, 2 February 2023 (UTC). Note: As of October 2022, all changes made to promoted hooks will be logged by a bot. The log for this nomination can be found at Template talk:Did you know nominations/2023 London Marathon, so please watch a successfully closed nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Approved nominations

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Articles created/expanded on December 22

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Judith Marquet-Krause

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Judith Marquet-Krause

Created by Lajmmoore (talk). Self-nominated at 10:27, 22 December 2022 (UTC).

  •   Awesome article that is both new and long enuf for DYK. QPQ done. No evidence of copyvio. Hook fact is verifiable, although I'm wondering if it's worthwhile to tweak the hook a little (it seems to imply that she actively set out to disprove Joshua's accuracy, which is quite the contrary to the intent of the expedition!). AGF on some sources I can't view. Cheers, KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 17:58, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
Image also seems like it complies with guidelines. KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 17:59, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
ALT1 ... that excavations led by archaeologist Judith Marquet-Krause (pictured) disproved that the Book of Joshua was a factual account of the city of Ai?
Does that move the emphasis enough? Lajmmoore (talk) 10:33, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
  ALT1 is definitely better. Striking ALT0. Interesting article. Cielquiparle (talk) 08:27, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
  •   I have unpromoted this. Please see Special:Diff/1135318350 for a discussion of the WP:PARAPHRASE problems. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:57, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
    • @97198, Lajmmoore, Cielquiparle, and Kingoflettuce: -- RoySmith (talk) 23:58, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
      hello RoySmith, thanks for flagging this - I wonder if the issue was caused by the fact I used a translation from NL? Either way, I'll fix it in the next 48 hours. Thanks again Lajmmoore (talk) 07:43, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
      hello @RoySmith: I've taken another look and weeded out, I think the worst paraphrasing. I'm not sure what to do about the structure - whether that too is considered COPYVIO? Lajmmoore (talk) 18:39, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
      @Nikkimaria: could I impose on you to take a look at the latest version? -- RoySmith (talk) 18:58, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
      Certainly better, although the Career section in particular could do with a bit more reworking. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:23, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
      I've done a bit more reworking, but I'm also at a bit of a loss with the structure since the JWA article is written quite like a Wikipedia article, I'm finding it challenging to see how to structure it differently. If someone could offer some advice that would be very much appreciated. Lajmmoore (talk) 16:24, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
      Pinging RoySmith to recheck; if the issues are too extensive for a reviewer to grapple with, I'd say that the nomination could be closed. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 23:33, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
      Theleekycauldron, RoySmith just to add, I have re-run Earwig and its returning a "copyvio unlikely 7.4%" - I'd be happy to try to find a new reviewer, as I think this would be a good page to showcase. Lajmmoore (talk) 08:23, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
  •   My apologies, I must have missed the previous ping. This looks good to go now. I just spent some time going back and forth between the articles on {en,es,nl,he}wiki and the JWA source; I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't copy from one of our versions at some point (some of our articles predate the JWA), but in any case, I think what we've got now is fine. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:45, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
RoySmith, thanks very much! With a massive facepalm: it didn't occur to me that the JWA article might have mirrored one of the other language versions - thanks for doing further investigation. Lajmmoore (talk) 08:29, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

References

  1. ↑ Stark, Thom (2011). The Human Faces of God: What Scripture Reveals when it Gets God Wrong (and why Inerrancy Tries to Hide It) (in English). Wipf and Stock Publishers. p. 142. ISBN 978-1-60899-323-9.


Articles created/expanded on December 28

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Alchymic Quartet

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Andrew Szydlo presenting chemical experimants

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 15:45, 31 December 2022 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y

Image eligibility:

QPQ: Done.

Overall:   Ready to approve once QPQ completed.  Ploni💬  00:07, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for the quick review. I reviewed now Template:Did you know nominations/Ariana Orrego. Perhaps the image could be cropped? GRuban? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:24, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
Updated! Cropping it would be an improvement.  Ploni💬  01:07, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
Finally: I got it cropped thanks to GRuban, Ploni. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:52, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
  Looks good to go!  Ploni💬  02:59, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: loving the hook, but it's a bit unclear to me. Was it intended to be played regularly during the teacher's experiments? If so, can the article be updated to match? And when the article says He won Szydlo to not only come for the celebration of his 60th birthday, but also give a speech at the main concert, I don't understand what "won" means. Was there a contest? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 07:05, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
Last first: in German, you can "jemanden für eine Aufgabe gewinnen", and it didn't occur to me as an idiom, sorry. Deepl tells me it's "to win someone over to a task". Would that be good enough or is there a better phrase for it? It was a major trip for Szydlo, so having the experiments on the side was ideal, but will be rare, beginning with not happening the following day, when the chemist sat in the audience after his speech and was the first to stand for the ovation (pictured). Music is often inspired by something but can be meaningfully performed without the something. The same composer wrote a piece inspired by a painting, but you don't have to know the painting, or by concentric phenomena, as you will remember. - This hook would be most meaningful on 28 Februar 2023, his mother's 90th birthday. She sat next to Szydlo but didn't rise as fast. (But I hate to ask favours ;) - I love GRuban's pic cropping, better later than no pic.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:38, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 31

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Braxton Cook

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Created by BanjoZebra (talk). Self-nominated at 20:00, 5 January 2023 (UTC).

  •   Hello and welcome to DYK. The article meets DYK requirements for length and creation time, and is free from close paraphrasing. The hook fact is cited inline, but per WP:DYKCRIT the exact sentence mentioning the Taylor Swift part needs a footnote. No QPQ is required as this is the nominator's first nomination. However, I'm not a fan of the hook. In recent months there have been reservations about hooks about or that mention Swift, and such hooks tend to underperform in terms of DYK readership interest. Theleekycauldron could perhaps elaborate more on this point, but in the meantime, could you perhaps propose a different hook about Cook that doesn't involve Swift? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:57, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
    • Narutolovehinata5 is correct, but i won't bore you with the details :) welcome to DYK, BanjoZebra! If you'd like any assistance drafting a hook, I'm around. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 01:59, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
Narutolovehinata5 ... that Braxton Cook performed alongside Jon Batiste on the soundtrack for Pixar's Soul, which won the Academy Award for Best Original Score? SL93 (talk) 08:42, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
I see that my hook suggestion isn't in the source. SL93 (talk) 08:49, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
My mistake, I fixed the source on the page. SL93 I think that hook works! BanjoZebra (talk) 16:40, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
I wonder if it could be revised further. There's probably an okay core there but I'm not really a fan of the mention of Batiste. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:50, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
  •   Can we please have a second opinion on ALT1? Narutolovehinata5 hasn't liked either of the hooks that associate Cook with other, more famous (and likely to attract eyeballs) artists; while I can understand avoiding Swift, who has been ubiquitous on DYK, I'm not sure why Batiste is being frowned upon. I don't think the Soul mention, even with the Academy Award, is sufficient by itself, since lots of musicians will be used in a film score, and the article doesn't have any more details to use than are in the hook itself. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:30, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
    • Well, hrm. I can say, with reasonable certainty, that this hook is not likely to attract eyeballs – name-dropping famous people is something we try frequently, with mixed results at best. So, if the question is "does the name drop of Jon Batiste bump up this hook's viewcount", my assessment would be no. I'm also not always a fan of hooks about people winning awards, because they're often too straightforward and don't really make the reader want to know more. Do those translate to a 3a fail? Hard to say; the community's broader interpretation of what makes a minimally passable hook might accommodate this. I wouldn't write this myself. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 10:26, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
To answer BlueMoonset's comment above, I'm not really fond of the mention of Batiste since I don't think the mention adds to the hook's hookiness. If Batiste's mention either added to the hookiness, or the hook itself was actually good, I wouldn't have had an issue with it. As it stands, I don't really think ALT1 meets the broad interest criterion unfortunately. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:10, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
  •   Agreeing with BlueMoonset that ALT1 is a good hook and checks out. The hook makes me want to read the article and it is cited and in the article. I also noticed the name of the fella! I actually like ALT0 as well, but I understand the Taylor Swift fatigue. The article has the correct inline citations and is free of copyright violations and neutral. No QPQ is required. Article was started Dec 31 and nominated January 5 so it was new enough. At 2957 characters it is also long enough. Welcome to DYK and I thank you for the well written article. Please do nominate more articles! Bruxton (talk) 17:05, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
  With due apologies to Bruxton, I don't think there is currently consensus for ALT1 at this time. Leeky and I have objected to the hook, while Bruxton and BM are fine with it. That's two supports and two opposes, which really doesn't translate to consensus. Perhaps a different hook angle can be proposed instead? I wouldn't be opposed to a different angle other than ALT1. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 18:03, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
  •   You cannot hang this nomination forever based on nothing. Leeky does not have a stong objection either. Do those translate to a 3a fail? Hard to say is not an objection. Your own objection is also equally weak I'm not really a fan of the mention of Batiste. I am renewing the green tick. You can take this to DYK talk to get other opinions but I am all for rewarding a new contributor who wrote a good article and has had their nomination hung for a month based on very weak objections. Bruxton (talk) 18:16, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
  • I see the concerns here. Here's yet another possibility:
ALT2: ... that saxophonist Braxton Cook has performed in four Tiny Desk Concerts for NPR? Source: https://www.npr.org/2020/05/08/852151138/braxton-cook-tiny-desk-home-concert BanjoZebra (talk) 18:42, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
Thanks BanjoZebra I shortened it for punch. It is also a possibility and it is in the article. I like ALT1 but this one is also clickable. Bruxton (talk) 19:43, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
BanjoZebra, Bruxton, the NPR source is dated May 8, 2020, when Cook's solo Tiny Desk concert aired; at that time, he'd performed in three prior TDCs as a supporting artist, and this was his fourth. Do we have any source to indicate that he hasn't appeared in any further ones in the nearly three years since then? If not, then ALT2 needs further modification, perhaps "at least four", because a plain "four" may no longer be accurate. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:15, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
BlueMoonset The search function/archives only show four. Bruxton (talk) 20:37, 19 February 2023 (UTC)]
Proposing further ALT hooks. There is so much potential here. Let's get this over the line.
@BanjoZebra and Narutolovehinata5: Feedback? Cielquiparle (talk) 04:47, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
I think I like ALT4 but my concern with it is that it's not clear what "Loops" means in this context. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:52, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
Of these I like ALT2a the most, and it looks like it's fully supported by the source too. BanjoZebra (talk) 06:00, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
@Bruxton: What do you think of these ALT hooks? Cielquiparle (talk) 16:05, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
@Cielquiparle: I like the simplicity of ALT2 or ALT2a. Makes people curious about the subject in my opinion. The other hooks are loaded with details that complicate. Bruxton (talk) 16:36, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
Thanks Bruxton. Could you pls make your approval of ALT2 and ALT2a official with another green tick? Cielquiparle (talk) 17:03, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
  x3 @Cielquiparle: Bruxton (talk) 18:35, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Niwar (cotton tape)

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Created by RAJIVVASUDEV (talk). Self-nominated at 13:37, 31 December 2022 (UTC).

  • General eligibility:
  • New Enough:  N - The article was not expanded 5x; it looks like it's just under 4x
  • Long Enough:  Y
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  N - As is, the hook doesn't sound particularly interesting. I would rewrite the hook to generate interest.
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   As it stands, the article is not eligible for DYK. To qualify for DYK, the article should be at least 15,215 bytes in size (using the article's size based on the edit before expansion, 3,043 bytes, as the basis for this computation); the article is currently at 11,942 bytes. --Sky Harbor (talk) 15:00, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

  •   Sky Harbor, DYK measures prose characters, not bytes. According to DYK check, which is the gold standard for DYK size checks, this article had 3810 prose characters as of when you reviewed it, and Assuming article is at 5x now, expansion began 65 edits ago on December 28, 2022, which was three days before. Indeed, the nominator notes this in their nomination. (Prior to the expansion, it had 530 prose characters, so only 2650 prose characters were needed to qualify.) It appears that RAJIVVASUDEV needs to create a new hook; what they don't need to do, although it is welcome, is to further expand the article for DYK purposes. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:24, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

BlueMoonset, Sky Harbor, thanks for your reconsideration. Kindly check the ALT1 if it suits. Regards RV (talk) 05:30, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

  The hook does seem better, so I think this is good to go with ALT1. --Sky Harbor (talk) 18:35, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
  Sky Harbor, RAJIVVASUDEV, I have some concerns about ALT1. The first is the "cotton tape" assertion, as the article makes it clear that Niwar is a type of tape or ribbon that is now manufactured using materials such as cotton, polyester, and nylon, not just cotton alone as the hook states, even if it may originally have only been made from cotton. Further, while some Niwar has historically been produced by prisoners, the article says was produced in various parts of India by cottage industries and also in jail industries, so not ever only by prisoners. The hook needs to be more accurate if it's to run. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:58, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
@Sky Harbor, BlueMoonset, ALT2 added. Thanks RV (talk) 08:34, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
RV, I'm afraid that ALT2 is also problematic: it is saying that the niwar bed, according to Sikhism, is both superior and the bed itself "attributes life's injustices to man's acts, not God's caprice", which seems unlikely. The words in quotes are nearly identical to the header immediately before XVI in Macauliffe's The Sikh Religion, and might be better as a direct quote and a better attribution, as these are from the writings of Kabir—based on what I'm seeing in the entire section, each header before the subsection numbers seems to be a brief explanation of what the section is conveying to the reader. The connection in the article is also not obvious between the niwar bed and the rest of it, just that the bed is used, along with silk and satin, as an example of luxuries that the gods might give to someone while others have not even a ragged coat or any bed, with the underlying thought that it all goes away when one dies. I'm not clear where those pre-number header lines come from: are these Macauliffe's summation, or a summary or header in the original Kabir? Finally, "niwar" is not a proper noun as best I can determine from the sources, and should not be capitalized in the hooks or in the text of the article, except as the first word in a sentence; I have adjusted the article accordingly, lowercasing a number of non-proper nouns. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:31, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
@BlueMoonset Thanks, Kindly check ALT3 and ALT4. Regards RV (talk) 09:17, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
@RAJIVVASUDEV and BlueMoonset: I've removed the bit about life's inequality and God's caprice from the article, so I've struck ALT3 and ALT4 as no longer usable. Also, some parts of the article are poorly sourced, eg. the "Present" section is sourced to raw export data and the third paragraph of the "Applications" section is sourced to invitations to tender. There may be close paraphrasing issues; compare the passage beginning "In 1956, approximately 215 units..." with this source (p. 147, 2nd paragraph). I'm not sure if this is a problem – the source may be public domain, or this may be a permissible WP:LIMITED exeption – but flagging it just in case. Sojourner in the earth (talk) 17:54, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
@Sojourner in the earth and BlueMoonset: After copy editing as per the given comments, ALT5 has been added. Please advise. Thanks RV (talk) 19:12, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
Note that there are two bare URLs (currently references 11 and 26) that will have to be filled in before the article can be approved. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:43, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
@BlueMoonset: It is sorted. Thanks RV (talk) 04:18, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
  • @RAJIVVASUDEV: I like ALT5. Could you please add citations to the end of each sentence with the information cited in the hook, even if it breaks your article's citation style? It's required under DYK rule #3b: Each fact in the hook must be supported in the article by at least one inline citation to a reliable source, appearing no later than the end of the sentence(s) offering that fact. Citations at the end of the paragraph are not sufficient. This rule applies even when a citation would not be required for the purposes of the article. (I like ALT6 a bit less, mainly because the use of the world "fueled", while attention-getting, sounds odd in wikivoice, plus it could be read the wrong way (i.e., was someone burning niwar in the 20th century?). Cielquiparle (talk) 08:09, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
@Cielquiparle: Hi! Inline citation is there, and page 129 of the source [Survey report: Cottage And Small Scale Industries of India] reads Niwar Weaving: It is another allied industry of weaving. Practically in all cities manufacture of Niwar is very common. Coloured and plain Niwar is prepared and sold almost everywhere. Coarse yarn is mostly used for this article and this industry may, therefore, be a help in the production of hand-spun yarn. During the War this industry was given a good impetus and we hope it will pay if an enquiry be made as to the purpose this article can serve in the foreign market. There seems to be thus a possibility of establishing an export market. To improvise AL6, I have tweaked it [ALT7, ALT8]. Kindly have a look. Thanks 02:49, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
@RAJIVVASUDEV: Sorry if it wasn't clear...what the rule is saying is that every single sentence in that paragraph has to have an individual footnote at the end of the sentence. You can't just tack it on at the end of the paragraph, even if that is the citation style you have chosen for the page. (I found this very unclear as well but apparently that is what rule #3b means.) Cielquiparle (talk) 20:09, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
@Cielquiparle: I have fixed it. Have a look. Thanks RV (talk) 03:43, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
@RAJIVVASUDEV: This is a nice article topic by the way. I have one more request regarding sourcing for the hook: Is there an additional source you can find that is more recent, which supports the part of the statement that says it helped support handspun yarn manufacturers? The issue I'm having is that the source you are quoting says "the industry may...be a help in the production of hand-spun yarn" (so it's like it hasn't happened yet). Cielquiparle (talk) 05:15, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
@Cielquiparle: I couldn't find another source, so I'm adding ALT9 and ALT10 if they can work. Thank you RV (talk) 06:41, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
  Approving ALT9. Can no longer see past ALT1, but this wording doesn't suggest it was only made in jails. (Am unable to access the source for ALT10, so not commenting on that one for now.) Cielquiparle (talk) 21:11, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
Niwar has also been produced in Jails as well as the cottage industry. Thanks RV (talk) 03:17, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
@RAJIVVASUDEV: I hate to nitpick but each paragraph needs a citation somewhere in it supporting the content, and there's a few short paragraphs/standalone sentences that lack citations (like the last short paragraph in the "Significance" section and the introductory paragraph for the "Applications" section. Would you mind adding appropriate citations to those sections so it can be promoted? Thanks. - Aoidh (talk) 20:12, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
@Aoidh: These lines are either opening or closing statements that are referenced in the paragraphs that follow. Anyhow, let me examine them. Thanks RV (talk) 01:11, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
@Aoidh: I have added the required citations. Kindly have a look. Thanks RV (talk) 05:27, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
@Theleekycauldron and BorgQueen: I'd actually like to defer to one of you on this since I'm not sure if I'm being overly nitpicky here; are those standalone sentences (like the first and last standalone sentences/paragraphs of Niwar (cotton tape)#Production) okay as-is or do they need references? I don't want to be needlessly picky about it if it's not necessary to be. Thanks. - Aoidh (talk) 17:05, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
@RAJIVVASUDEV and Aoidh: IMO, the first two sentences of the "Production" section should have footnotes, even if they are repeating footnotes from the rest of the section below it. It's just best practice because this is Wikipedia, and you have to assume that other editors down the line may start rearranging this content, and will quickly lose sight of the fact that those two sentences were intended as "opening statements". It would be nice if the final sentence in the Production section also had a footnote as well. Cielquiparle (talk) 02:25, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
@Cielquiparle and Aoidh: I have added the required citations. Kindly check. Thanks RV (talk) 11:19, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
  Thanks for addressing that, and sorry if it seems like I'm being unduly picky, but DYK in particular has some rules that are particular about that sort of thing and I wanted to make sure it was all addressed and good to go. - Aoidh (talk) 17:00, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 3

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Buchanan's Station

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19th century view of the site; the log building on the right is a remnant of the 1780s fort.[1]

Created by GenQuest (talk). Self-nominated at 21:36, 3 January 2023 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   Article was new enough at nomination, is long enough, is well source, and is neutral. In terms of plagiarism - there is some close phrasing in the image caption that earwig picked up - it would be good if that could change. Additionally, the image caption is too long for a DYK, so please could it be shortened? Lajmmoore (talk) 14:04, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

@Lajmmoore: These concerns have been addressed, Thank you. GenQuest "scribble" 16:44, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
@Lajmmoore: Please let me know what more is needed to pass this? Thanks, GenQuest "scribble" 00:55, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
@GenQuest: thanks for the reminder, caption and editing request are fulfilled Lajmmoore (talk) 12:40, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
@Hawkeye7: Could you please take a quick look at this article from a WikiProject Military History point of view? First of all, is it misnamed per WikiProject convention (i.e., should it be "Battle of Buchanan's Station" or similar)? Any other adjustments needed to conform to basic MH standards? (Thought of Kevin1776 because of Tecumseh but seems to be offline these days.) Cielquiparle (talk) 03:56, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
The article is fine. I have reassessed it as B class. The article naming seems okay. I don't know much about the place/period. @Hog Farm: might know more. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 05:05, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
The name is fine, since the article discusses the stockade itself besides just the battle that took place there. Ideally there'd be some coverage of the period between the battle and whenever the stockade was abandoned in the article, but that's not always covered by sources. Unfortunately, I don't have time right now to dig into this article or sources for it much. Hog Farm Talk 07:11, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
I have added additional information to the article to address the period between the battle and the sale of the property. Thanks, GenQuest "scribble" 18:27, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

  Thanks to Hawkeye7 and Hog Farm for reviewing, and to GenQuest for updating per comments. I would like to make ALT1 work somehow, but the issue I'm having is that the source says "a mere fifteen sharpshooters" in the body text while acknowledging in the footnote that other sources say as many as twenty – would it be possible to address this detail somehow in the article either with an explanatory endnote and/or finding and adding one of the other sources that says 20? The other issue I had was that I wasn't able to verify that Talitoskee was leading – it feels like maybe one of your sources accidentally got deleted or dropped – so could you please go through that section and fix as well? Cielquiparle (talk) 16:03, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Cielquiparle I believe all your objections have been met. Can this get passed now? GenQuest "scribble" 06:43, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
Is anyone looking at this anymore? GenQuest "scribble" 18:41, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
@GenQuest: I'm having trouble verifying the claim that Talitoskee was leading the raid on Buchanan's Station. Which source says that? Cielquiparle (talk) 00:11, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
Cielquiparle I've removed the offending statement. GenQuest "scribble" 07:30, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
  Thanks GenQuest! Cielquiparle (talk) 12:55, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

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Articles created/expanded on January 5

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Untitled The Last of Us game

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  This was originally a triple nomination, but has been split into three separate nominations. The other two are Template:Did you know nominations/The Last of Us (franchise) and Template:Did you know nominations/The Last of Us: Escape the Dark. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 18:43, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

Moved to mainspace by Rhain (talk). Self-nominated at 04:37, 5 January 2023 (UTC).

  • I will review this nomination shortly. Epicgenius (talk) 13:50, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

All three articles:

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   Epicgenius (talk) 14:27, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

  • @Rhain and Epicgenius:   I'm a bit uneasy about both of these hooks; I'm sure it's not intentional, but having nothing to say about media franchises other than "they exist" or "coming soon" sounds a bit like advertising to me. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 01:33, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
    • @Theleekycauldron: Definitely a valid concern, but I'm struggling to think of an interesting, concise hook using all three articles. Should this nomination be split into separate hooks, or refocused on one of the articles? (I'm not bothered if refocusing on one makes the other two ineligible for now; they can always be re-nominated upon 5× expansion or GA.) – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 01:59, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
      • Well, I don't think we'd be losing eligibility on any of the articles. Opening up new nominations for each of the other articles is efficient, but probably a little cumbersome. I'd say that it'd be messier, but we can probably get by if you just propose separate new hooks down here and have them all reviewed and promoted into separate preps. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 02:05, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
        •   I think proposing separate hooks is probably the best option; I've done that below. Please feel free to adjust my formatting as much as is necessary. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 05:23, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   @Rhain: Good article. Though I will agree with Narutolovehinata5 that hooks alt1 and alt2 are to Naughty Dog specific to be appealing but I find alt0 alright. Onegreatjoke (talk) 22:18, 9 March 2023 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on January 15

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Piri (singer)

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piri

Created by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 18:42, 15 January 2023 (UTC).

  •   Non-notable? - The article itself looks fine in terms of length, content, newness, neutrality, etc (just a few minor formatting fixes need done), but from what I can tell, the subject is not currently demonstrated to be notable. The hook is certainly interesting and it appears QPQ has been fulfilled, so I'd be fine if it wasn't for the notability problem. I've opened an AfD for the article, and per WP:DYKR this nomination should be held pending the result of the discussion. AviationFreak💬 22:13, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
    • @AviationFreak: the article has been kept; review can continue? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 21:25, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
      •   Yep! - I've given the article a second look and agree with my previous review. In fact, the article has improved significantly since then! Notability question resolved at AfD. AviationFreak💬 00:36, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
        • AviationFreak theleekycauldron I was wondering if it was too late to add an image to the nomination, but I wouldn't know where to start in looking for one.--Launchballer 09:46, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
        • Before I upload it, can this Flickr image be used?--Launchballer 14:09, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
          • I meant this one, but I've just spotted it says 'All rights reserved'. Could I claim 'fair use' and use it just on Wikipedia?--Launchballer 16:10, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
          • Could I use a different hook?
          • ALT1: ... that the "updown" singer piri (pictured) funded her music career by setting up an OnlyFans account?Source: https://archive.ph/XYqpG--Launchballer 17:01, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
          • I managed to get the piri to upload some images to Commons. Could I a) use the image on the right, and b) use either ALT1 or the following hook:
          • ALT2: ... that the musician and OnlyFans creator piri wrote "updown" about the cowgirl sex position?--Launchballer 20:07, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
            • I'm ok with ALT1 - I'm not sure how stringent the guidelines are for DYK since the entire fact (i.e., that piri sings "updown") isn't cited under one footnote in the article, but I don't have a problem with it since the hook can be derived from a couple sources in the article. ALT2, however, seems to be cited directly to a TikTok comment which is a primary source and therefore should not appear on the front page. The image looks ok to me - Perhaps a crop would be in order since a large portion of the picture is just whitish/purple flare. Image licensing is not my strong suit but this looks good as CC4.0. AviationFreak💬 20:55, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
              • You could use the LeftLion source for the fact that she recorded a song called that.--Launchballer 21:04, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

I've had all the images on the page cropped. Please use the one on the leftright - as we're talking about her OnlyFans account, it makes sense to use the one used for that section. All use CC4.0.--Launchballer 22:32, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

There are now more sources to support her having a single called updown. I genuinely don't know if this hook will be allowed, but I'll ask anyway, and if not could ALT1 please be used:
ALT3: ... that the "updown" singer piri (pictured) uploads "nude photos and videos[, …] lingerie shots [and] pay-per-view masturbation videos" to OnlyFans? Source: https://scan.lancastersu.co.uk/2020/11/26/interview-with-a-student-onlyfans/--Launchballer 14:04, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
Ok.   Approved for ALT3, as it is cited in the article and seems reliable enough per WP:INTERVIEW and WP:RSSM. I suppose this is ok for the main page per WP:CENSOR but I also think there is something to be said for avoiding sexually explicit shock-value hooks when other hooks (e.g., ALT1) would suffice. ALT1 is not mentioned/cited in the body of the article (it appears unsourced in the lede, but nowhere else), so I can't approve it. AviationFreak💬 16:09, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
  ALT3 is not approved as it violates WP:PROMOTION. I see now that ALT1 is not approved either, mainly because there is no citation for the claim that she used OnlyFans to fund her music career (only that she has an OnlyFans account). Looks like a new hook is needed. Cielquiparle (talk) 23:29, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
The second sentence of the third paragraph of the Pornography section reads as follows, emphasis mine: "As of that article, her OnlyFans account had "about 1,000 to 2,000 fans paying about $12 a month", which after the site had deducted its fees meant she made "between $10,000 and $20,000 a month", which she was able to use to fund her music career, move to north London, and buy a computer and microphone." Failing that,
ALT4: ... that the "updown" singer piri (pictured) is a member of Loud LDN?--Launchballer 23:50, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
  @Launchballer: Thanks for the clarification. Re-approving ALT1, which actually is cited within the article. ALT4 checks out but is unlikely to be chosen by the promoter because "Loud LDN" will be meaningless to most Wikipedia readers. Pinging @AviationFreak: In case there is something else I missed about your approval and subsequent "can't approve" for ALT1. Cielquiparle (talk) 08:05, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
I do also want to point out to AviationFreak and Launchballer that ALT3 is a pretty flagrant SG?gratuitous infraction. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 09:33, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
Also, the image doesn't look very clear at DYK size. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 09:36, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
You want the cropped version, which I've replaced above.--Launchballer 09:37, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
Apologies for my mistakes on ALT3; thank you both for the correction/info. AviationFreak💬 16:54, 3 March 2023 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on January 18

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Gimix

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  • ... that a custom version of Gimix's Ghost personal computer could have automated your home in 1980—for $10,000? Source: 'Bob Phillips, president of Gimix Inc., a Chicago firm that manufactures home computers that serve entire households, agrees that it will be years before his computers are in common use. "Our computers, that start at about $10,000, are meant for more expensive homes," he said. "People can barely afford to buy a home now, let alone the extra cost of a computer." Phillips said his computer can monitor and operate appliances, check energy usage and even record and keep important household information. But the household computer is still classified as a "Hollywood-type toy," according to Phillips.' https://www.newspapers.com/clip/116691375/home-computers-set-for-boom-in-80s/

Created by DigitalIceAge (talk). Self-nominated at 01:19, 25 January 2023 (UTC). Note: As of October 2022, all changes made to promoted hooks will be logged by a bot. The log for this nomination can be found at Template talk:Did you know/Approved, so please watch a successfully closed nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  •   New enough and long enough when nominated. No copyright violations. Interesting hook which is referenced and in the article. The article is neutral and has the correct inline citations. The QPQ is done. Bruxton (talk) 20:29, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
    • @DigitalIceAge and Bruxton:   could you point me towards sourcing that the mentioned $10,000 computer in The Vancouver Sun 1980 is a modified Gimix Ghost? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 07:25, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
      • That was a bit of synthesis/speculation on my part, my bad. It is almost certainly based on their System 68/Ghost with more bells and whistles and relays, but I could not find another article definitively connecting the dots (the home automation units evidently didn't sell well).
In lieu of that, I propose ALT0a:
... that Gimix released a personal computer could have automated your home in 1980—for $10,000? Source: 'Bob Phillips, president of Gimix Inc., a Chicago firm that manufactures home computers that serve entire households, agrees that it will be years before his computers are in common use. "Our computers, that start at about $10,000, are meant for more expensive homes," he said. "People can barely afford to buy a home now, let alone the extra cost of a computer." Phillips said his computer can monitor and operate appliances, check energy usage and even record and keep important household information. But the household computer is still classified as a "Hollywood-type toy," according to Phillips.' https://www.newspapers.com/clip/116691375/home-computers-set-for-boom-in-80s/
@Theleekycauldron and Bruxton: DigitalIceAge (talk) 07:50, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
@DigitalIceAge: I appreciate you. Bruxton (talk) 14:50, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
@DigitalIceAge and Bruxton: I think the hook still needs more work. ALT0/ALT0a is too much of a logical leap or hypothetical (and it doesn't match the statement on the article page). Not to mention the fact that the actual source for the claim is the company itself (i.e., not an independent source). Also, what does $10,000 even mean in today's dollars? Here is one suggestion:
  • ALT1: ... that Gimix acknowledged in 1980 that its computer for home automation was like a "Hollywood-type toy"?
(Of course they didn't exactly call it "home automation" back then, so we need to be extra careful that we're not overclaiming what the computer actually did or could do.) Cielquiparle (talk) 03:11, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
ALT1 sounds great, thank you. DigitalIceAge (talk) 03:38, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
  New reviewer needed for ALT1. Cielquiparle (talk) 11:47, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
@DigitalIceAge:   New hook looks good! Freedom4U (talk) 21:14, 1 March 2023 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on January 19

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Danielle Marcano

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  • ... that American Danielle Marcano was named the GHSA Girl's Soccer Player of the Year in 2014 and 2015, as well as the Player of the Week by TopDrawerSoccer.com in 2018? Source: "Was named the GHSA Girl's Soccer Player of the Year for all classifications in 2014, along with all-county honors after scoring 26 goals and 16 assists", "Unanimous GHSA Class AA Girls Soccer Player of the Year in 2015", "TopDrawerSoccer.com Player of the Week (11/20/18)" [10]

Created by CeeGee (talk). Self-nominated at 12:03, 19 January 2023 (UTC).

  Article is long enough and new enough; no sourcing, copyright, or content issues were found. Hook has good source and meets length and format criterion. QPQ was done.--Orygun (talk) 05:58, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
Dropping in to say that the article was definitely not fit for DYK at the time of promotion, having mixed high school and college events and falsely claiming that Marcano played in the NCAA championship. Perhaps this article (and several of its clones) need to be closely reevaluated. SounderBruce 00:22, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
  @CeeGee, Orygun, and SounderBruce: Per SounderBruce's concerns, and the presence of an active citation needed tag, I do not feel comfortable promoting this hook right now. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 23:07, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
@CeeGee, Orygun, Bruxton, and Kingsif: I have now added some very important content and sources that were missing to the Danielle Marcano article, and would like to propose that the hook be changed, as I don't think the current hook does justice to her as a player. CeeGee, what do you think of something like:
(Copied in Kingsif as football DYK expert.) Cielquiparle (talk) 08:12, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
  New reviewer needed for ALT1. (Citation needed tag flagged by Trainsandotherthings has been resolved by CeeGee. I have also added more content and sources to the article to address earlier concerns raised by SounderBruce.) Cielquiparle (talk) 04:26, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   @CeeGee: Good article. Approve hook alt1. Onegreatjoke (talk) 19:10, 10 March 2023 (UTC)



Articles created/expanded on January 20

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Abdul Ghani Azhari

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Created by TheAafi (talk). Self-nominated at 17:12, 20 January 2023 (UTC).

General question.–MinisterOfReligion (Talk) 06:27, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  N - n
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   @TheAafi: To be honest, I don't think the hook is that interesting. Could another be proposed? Onegreatjoke (talk) 16:05, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

@TheAafi: Truthfully, I don't think that these are that interesting either. Maybe i'm not seeing it but I don't find these all that interesting. Onegreatjoke (talk) 18:19, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
@Onegreatjoke:, Alt1a appears pretty much interesting and hooky to me and perhaps you are not getting it because this belongs to a subject where you don't contribute. It is okay and you can leave the nomination to be reviewed once again by someone else who knows the subjective stuff perhaps. ─ The Aafī (talk) 00:20, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
  •   Another reviewer is requested to take a look at this. Gazal world would you likely be available to re-review this nomination? ─ The Aafī (talk) 00:36, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
  •   New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. ALT0 is interesting; hook ref verified and cited inline. QPQ done. ALT0 good to go. --Gazal world (talk) 17:28, 2 March 2023 (UTC)


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Private Peaceful

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Improved to Good Article status by Unexpectedlydian (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 15:49, 25 January 2023 (UTC). Note: As of October 2022, all changes made to promoted hooks will be logged by a bot. The log for this nomination can be found at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Private Peaceful, so please watch a successfully closed nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  •   Important article about a heartbreaking story. Nominated within four days of achieving GA, long enough, well-sourced, neutral (though sad). Earwig says copyvio unlikely. QPQ is done. Re: hooks, ALT0 checks out and is fine. ALT1 could be great, but it repeats "Peaceful" 3 times and seems like too much telling (i.e., no lingering question that makes you want to click). Is there a way to reword and simplify? Maybe it just came from a (mysterious) gravestone? @Onegreatjoke: Cielquiparle (talk) 20:01, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
@Cielquiparle: How about, ALT1a: ... that the name of the book Private Peaceful came from a gravestone? Onegreatjoke (talk) 19:54, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
@Onegreatjoke: I guess we'll need a new reviewer, but what do you think of these?
  Request new reviewer to review ALT2 and ALT3. And now ALT1b and ALT1c below!
  • ALT1b: ... that the name of the book Private Peaceful came from a gravestone that later turned out to be misspelled?
  • ALT1c: ... that the name of the book Private Peaceful came from a misspelled gravestone? Cielquiparle (talk) 04:08, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
  •   QPQ is done. The copyvio detector picks up a mirror site, but the article appears to be free of violations. The article has been improved to good article status and was nominated within the time constraint. The article is well written and neutral with the correct inline citations. ALT1c is interesting, cited and in the article. Bruxton (talk) 16:17, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

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Sanaullah Bhat

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  • ... that Sanaullah Bhat was the initiator of photojournalism in Jammu and Kashmir? Source: see article
    • ALT1: ... that Sanaullah Bhat introduced street sale of newspapers in Kashmir? Source: see article
    • Reviewed: exempt
    • Comment: I am thankful to TheAafi who guided me in creating this article and helped me push this article for DYK. The two facts I have mentioned look best to me. Thank you.

Created by Ihuzaiful (talk). Self-nominated at 14:34, 24 January 2023 (UTC).

  • Ihuzaiful is a student at the same university where I study and appears to be passionate towards contributing on the encyclopedia. I guided him and he said that he had created accounts in past but all in mess. I made him declare having another account on userpage and he did it and then created this page. I reviewed the page and accepted it because it appeared notable to me. I hope he receives better guidance concerning DYK hook that he has provided. If he receives positive guidance and is mentored correctly, I believe he can contribute actively. Best, ─ The Aafī (talk) 04:20, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
  • @Ihuzaiful: Welcome to Did you know? and Wikipedia generally. Unfortunately this article is not currently up to DYK standards to feature on the main page ( ). The article meets some of the requirements; it was nominated the day after it was created, and the text is just over 1,500 characters. However, there are issues with the prose, in particular overly close paraphrasing of source 1, as well as various grammar problems, that need to be resolved. If the article is improved, you will also need to support the hooks (which are currently grammatically questionable as well) with direct quotes from sources (on this page). Thanks for your interest in contributing. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 21:24, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
    • Hameltion, thanks for reviewing this article created by @Ihuzaiful. I just did a bit of copyediting and Earwig just catches a quotation to have been copied. I would be glad to help with copyediting on this article. Please let me know if anything else in prose needs to be fixed. I might meet Ihuzaiful at the university and ask them to take care of this nomination. Best, ─ The Aafī (talk) 05:12, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
      • @TheAafi: Hi, I don't really see any improvement to the article. The paragraph breaks are helpful, but it's possibly now more difficult to read at the sentence level. For example, there was little grammatically wrong with the previous sentence "He began his career in journalism careerin 1952 when he started publishing a weekly newspaper named Kashmir from Azad Kashmir" (though there was and still is too close paraphrasing, and the source says only that Bhat worked there, not that he ran/published it). You changed it to "He began his career in journalism in 1952 with publishing a weekly newspaper entitled Kashmir. He published this newspaper from Azad Kashmir", which is more repetitive and does not read naturally. Also, overall I don't consider the paraphrasing problem resolved. For example, the sentences "Bhat was the first to use offset printing technology" and "[he] introduced photo journalism in the state" are taken directly from the first ref; additionally, "introduced photo journalism" is a kind of broad claim that deserves more than a passing mention for a citation. These are all just examples of things that could use work. If you do plan to improve the article for DYK, please revise or suggest some alternate hooks as well. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 06:24, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
        • @Hameltion:, thanks for the review. I will just take care of some copyediting and Ihuzaiful would himself go with the DYK hooks. I have made some changes. Do you think the prose issue has been resolved? Best, ─ The Aafī (talk) 06:39, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
          • @TheAafi: I just made further edits myself; be sure to check that I didn't introduce any errors, especially re the Urdu-language primary source. It does strike me now that the article relies on basically just one reference, something not urgent to change but to think about adding. New hooks are very welcome. I want to upgrade this nom to  , with really only the hook left to go. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 15:35, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
            • Everything looks fine @Hameltion: to me. I met Ihuzaiful at the university and they said they would be attending this nomination. Working on this nomination would increase their knowledge and they'd get to know several other things. ─ The Aafī (talk) 15:40, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
              • @Hameltion:, I feel like Ihuzaiful is not in a position to take care of this nomination and I am taking it over now. Please let me know what do you think of the below hooks? ─ The Aafī (talk) 08:19, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
  • ALT2: ... that Sanaullah Bhat has been called the father of press in Kashmir?
  • ALT2a: ... that Sanaullah Bhat is considered the father of journalism in Kashmir? "...paid rich tributes to the veteran journalist and the father figure of press in Kashmir Khwaja Sonaullah Bhat on his 13th death anniversary" ref 4. And there are more English-language sources not used in the article source a source b that describe him as "father of"
  • ALT3: ... that the first use of offset printing in Kashmir has been credited to Sanaullah Bhat?
  • ALT4: ... that Sanaullah Bhat has reportedly been described the initiator of photojournalism in Kashmir?
  • ALT2a (edited by me) is the only one of these that is broadly interesting, and I just added the refs here myself.   Nice work, @TheAafi. Promoters, I would appreciate a closer than usual double check because the article started in an unpromotable state, and while improved it's not perfect. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 14:39, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
Thanks Hameltion, I really appreciate your assistance. I am okay with the modification that you made to the hook i.e. changing press into journalism. ─ The Aafī (talk) 14:43, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
@TheAafi and Hameltion: Source "a" and source "b" both support ALT2a much better (more literally) than the source given in the article. Would you be able to add these sources to the article? Cielquiparle (talk) 15:30, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
@Cielquiparle:, included, and made some more additions based on these two sources. ─ The Aafī (talk) 15:54, 8 March 2023 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on January 26

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Ywet Nu Aung

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Created by Taung Tan (talk). Self-nominated at 20:26, 26 January 2023 (UTC). Note: As of October 2022, all changes made to promoted hooks will be logged by a bot. The log for this nomination can be found at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Ywet Nu Aung, so please watch a successfully closed nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y

QPQ:  N - Not done
Overall:   Gog the Mild (talk) 17:55, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

  • I would like to avoid the duplication of "detained"; use a definite article before "detained State Counsellor of Myanmar Aung San Suu Kyi"; and match the hook to the past tense used in the article. So how would you feel about "... that the imprisoned attorney Ywet Nu Aung was one of the lawyers for the detained State Counsellor of Myanmar Aung San Suu Kyi?"
  • Obviously you need to do a QPQ. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:55, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
    Hi Thanks for your correction. Your rewording is fine with me. I'll do QPQ soon. Cheers Taung Tan (talk) 09:05, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
    @Taung Tan and Gog the Mild: hopefully a QPQ arrives soon, as it's currently four days late. Also, do keep an eye on WP:DYK#gen4a as it relates to WP:BLPCRIME? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 22:08, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
    Hi I'm back. Sorry, I'm in the middle of a university exam, and there's no longer any activity on Wikipedia these days. My QPQ is in processing. Taung Tan (talk) 07:14, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
    Sorry for the delay. QPQ is done. Cheers. Taung Tan (talk) 18:30, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
    I think that you need to complete your review of the nom, with a yes/no decision, before it counts as done. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:01, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
    Done. Taung Tan (talk) 19:28, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
      @Taung Tan and Gog the Mild: could another hook be found here? I think that this one focuses unduly on a negative aspect of a living person, falling afoul of DYK hook criteria. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 09:18, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
    Sorry I was busy with my education. Dear theleekycauldron pls don't make me more hard. I don't think that my hook is based on a negative aspect of a living person. I've already promoted the arrested figure like this: Template:Did you know nominations/Linn Nhyo Taryar. However I choose a new hook
    • ALT1: ... that the lawyer Ywet Nu Aung gained national attention in Myanmar after representing the family of a toddler who was sexually assaulted at a private primary school in Naypyitaw, known as Naypyidaw Victoria rape case?

.Taung Tan (talk) 20:08, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

I checked for that and didn't see it. At the moment I honestly couldn't tell you which individual leeky means, nor what aspect they consider negative. Aung San Suu Kyi having a lawyer who is in jail I suppose.
Re ALT1, I don't think it's punchy enough. How about "... that the lawyer Ywet Nu Aung gained national attention in Myanmar after representing the family of a toddler who was sexually assaulted"? Gog the Mild (talk) 20:38, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
Thanks, look good to me. Taung Tan (talk) 21:16, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
  •   ALT2: ... that the lawyer Ywet Nu Aung gained national attention in Myanmar after representing the family of a toddler who was sexually assaulted? Gog the Mild (talk) 21:35, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
    • @Taung Tan and Gog the Mild:   my apologies, I was out for most of today. Yes, I was talking about the idea that we're airing the fact that a BLP is in jail before they've been convicted of a crime. In my view, ALT2 contravenes SG?gratuitous; the scope of that guideline hasn't really been nailed down, though, so you're welcome to contest that at WT:DYK. Taung Tan, I'm afraid that I can't loosen my view of the rules up due to personal circumstances (other than allowing more time for fixes and process stuff like that), but if you'd like to withdraw to take this off your plate, that's of course fine by me. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 04:10, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
      Weeell, you're the boss. And no need to apologise for the lack of an instant response, we're all unpaid volunteers here. Do I take this to also be a "no" to ALT2? @Theleekycauldron: Gog the Mild (talk) 10:49, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
      @Gog the Mild: It'd be a "no" from me, but like I said before, I can't really be sure that my interpretation of the guideline is widely held, so I'd encourage you to challenge that at the noticeboard if you disagree. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 01:18, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
      Taung Tan, apologies, but I am going to step back from this nomination. Being extremely experienced at writing for the main page - I written some 400 blurbs for TFA [11], [12], [13] - and checking others' work for the main page - I schedule TFAs every third month, including this month [14] where I was responsible for checking and copy editing those blurbs I didn't write myself - I had thought that I was well informed on the main page requirements. Apparently not. I am, like you, baffled as to how WP:BLPCRIME can be stretched to cover ALT0 or how ALT2 falls foul of WP:DYK#gen4. This being so, I think you need the advice of a reviewer better acquainted with how DYK interprets the rules. If you are not sure how to reset the nomination for this, I imagine leeky can advise. I am unwatching now. Apologies again for making a mess of this. Gog the Mild (talk) 14:00, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
Thanks Gog the Mild, you are very natural, and I will remember your help. I will propose another hook. Taung Tan (talk) 18:09, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
  • ALT3: ... that the lawyer Ywet Nu Aung rose to prominence as a righteous lawyer after taking on legal challenges against powerful Buddhist ultranationalists in their stronghold area of Mandalay? [1] How do you think? theleekycauldron. Taung Tan (talk) 17:45, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
    • This appears to present a couple of WP:NPOV and WP:VOICE problems, particularly around "righteous", "powerful", "ultranationalists", and "stronghold". I should also point out, for the record, that I said ALT0 had a BLPCRIME/4a problem, whereas ALT2 had a SG?gratuitous problem (as opposed to 4a/BLPCRIME for both hooks). theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 20:44, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
  Marking this DYK nomination as requiring additional work, until a suitable hook is found. Cielquiparle (talk) 03:45, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
Modify - ALT3a: ... that Ywet Nu Aung won people's hearts as a human rights lawyer by taking on legal challenges against Buddhist ultranationalists in their base area of Mandalay?
ALT3 might not be suitable per WP:WTA and WP:NPOV. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:39, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
Amm I've got no idea now, so please help me out of this hell. Taung Tan (talk) 17:16, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

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References

  1. ↑ Mike (2020-12-30). "Ten Myanmar Women Who Inspired Us in 2020". The Irrawaddy (in American English). Retrieved 2023-02-25.


Articles created/expanded on January 27

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Untitled Goose Game

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Improved to Good Article status by MyCatIsAChonk (talk). Self-nominated at 23:56, 27 January 2023 (UTC). Note: As of October 2022, all changes made to promoted hooks will be logged by a bot. The log for this nomination can be found at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Untitled Goose Game, so please watch a successfully closed nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited:  N - not for the first hook.
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   @MyCatIsAChonk: Good article. But I'm not seeing the first hook be supported by the source. Onegreatjoke (talk) 01:37, 4 February 2023 (UTC) @Onegreatjoke: The lead section is not cited, but the fact is mentioned down in under "Development and release": The game originated from a stock photograph of a goose that an employee posted in the company's internal communications, which sparked a conversation about geese. The citation is for a Tweet from the lead game dev at House House (the company that made Untitled Goose Game).

@Onegreatjoke: Are there any other changes you'd like me to make? MyCatIsAChonk (talk) 13:26, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
Since the previous reviewer hasn't responded for a few days, I'm going to give it the holy tick.   I prefer the ALT2. BorgQueen (talk) 07:18, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
@BorgQueen: Now that I think about it, this has some seriously good potential for an April Fools hook. If it's not too late in the game, here are some proposals:
ALT3: ... that geese make good protagonists?
Source and context: The protagonist of the game is a goose; the idea came from a stock photo of a goose posted in the game dev's Slack chat. Source is a Tweet by a dev at the company: https://twitter.com/mjmcmaster/status/763596145452912640.
ALT4: ... that Debussy is still hip?
Source and context: The music in the game is derived from a Debussy prelude. Verge article: https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/23/20879792/untitled-goose-game-nintendo-switch-debussy
ALT5: ... that geese can be hitmen too?
Source and context: One of the games that was used as inspiration was the Hitman franchise for its targeted-mission style (as shown in the original ALTs). Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-49852317
An image of a goose would make sense for 3 nd 5 (here's some possibilities: one and two). If it's not too late, I think this would be really great. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) 02:57, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
  • Amusing, sure, if you're willing to wait until April. BorgQueen (talk) 04:44, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
    @BorgQueen: Would you mind moving it to the April Fools page? Is there a specific way I should do it? MyCatIsAChonk (talk) 14:57, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
    • @Cielquiparle and Theleekycauldron: What do you guys think? BorgQueen (talk) 15:15, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
      • @BorgQueen: we have lots of leeway on April Fools' Day for hooks, but stating jokes or quotes in wikivoice isn't usually something we screw around with. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 07:38, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
        • @Theleekycauldron: Respectfully, I don't feel that any of the April Fools' ALTs are twisting quotes; the only one that could possibly be close to that is ALT5, but that's a generalized statement in the article, not a quote. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) 01:27, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
          • The issue isn't that we're twisting the quote, MyCatIsAChonk, it's that we're repeating a quote without saying it's a quote. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 03:41, 23 February 2023 (UTC) hey, my apologies for being curt. I was frustrated about something in the meatspace, and it's totally not fair that I radiated that out here. if we could find another quirky part of such a funky game, that'd be great :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 04:06, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
            • @Theleekycauldron: It's all good; I've struck through the ALT0 through ALT2 because they're not April Fools' hooks, and ALT5 because of the quote issue. ALT3 and ALT4 are spinning the nature of the game. Personally, I prefer ALT4, but I do realize that it's less about the game and more about the music of it. Thoughts? MyCatIsAChonk (talk) 14:53, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

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 MyCatIsAChonk, thanks for striking ALT3. Could you explain how ALT4 doesn't express an opinion? (By default, a statement is made in wikivoice unless we attribute it to someone else). theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 20:43, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

@Theleekycauldron: Comparing it to the criteria under WP:VOICE, ALT4 is not an opinion (while I don't consider it a fact, I believe it's a rephrasing of a fact, the fact being that Debussy's music is still used today), it's not seriously contested, it's not a definite fact, not judgmental, and doesn't give undue weight to something. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) 21:48, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 28

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Jewish quarter (Barcelona)

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Created by Longhornsg (talk). Self-nominated at 04:39, 2 February 2023 (UTC). Note: As of October 2022, all changes made to promoted hooks will be logged by a bot. The log for this nomination can be found at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Jewish quarter (Barcelona), so please watch a successfully closed nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  •   Article is new enough, long enough, and neutral. QPQ not necessary as one of the nominator's first submissions. A few things: The hook is interesting, but the Jerusalem Post article linked here is not cited in the article. There's also are several unsourced paragraphs in the "Pogroms and Inquisition" section. Additionally I'm doubtful of the reliability of the Jewish Segovia source for our purposes—it looks like a self-published blog. Is there any scholarly sources we can use in its place? DigitalIceAge (talk) 02:55, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
  • @Longhornsg and DigitalIceAge: I've added the words "may be" to the hook, as the claim is disputable. It isn't known when the building first began to be used as a synagogue, and the Synagogue of Santa María la Blanca also makes claim to be the oldest (see eg. [15]). "One of the oldest in Europe" is safe enough, but I'd note that this isn't technically supported by the sources, which both assert (incorrectly) that it is the oldest in Europe. This latter is only a minor point for me, though, and I don't think the hook needs re-reviewing unless either of you object to my changes. Sojourner in the earth (talk) 06:04, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
    •   Good catch, judging whether something is the 'first' can be fraught with confusion, so this is a good middle ground. DigitalIceAge (talk) 18:55, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
      •   @Longhornsg and DigitalIceAge: I see that the original hook has been modified, but what the article says about the claims made in the hook doesn't quite match. Cielquiparle (talk) 05:13, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 29

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Regine at the Theater

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  1. ↑ Buan-Deveza, Reyma (October 27, 2015). "Regine's concert to feature songs from musical theater" (in Tagalog). ABS-CBNnews.com. Retrieved January 29, 2023.
  2. ↑ 2.0 2.1 Siazon, Rachelle (October 7, 2015). "Regine Velasquez excited to perform hit songs from Rak of Aegis, Katy! The Musical during her concert series". Philippine Entertainment Portal (in Tagalog). Retrieved January 29, 2023.

Created by Pseud 14 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:14, 3 February 2023 (UTC). Note: As of October 2022, all changes made to promoted hooks will be logged by a bot. The log for this nomination can be found at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Regine at the Theater, so please watch a successfully closed nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  N - n
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   @Pseud 14: Good article, but the hook is not interesting to me. If you could suggest a new hook then that would be great. Onegreatjoke (talk) 19:08, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

@Onegreatjoke: added alternative hook. Let me know what you think and feel free to edit/improve. Pseud 14 (talk) 00:36, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
@Onegreatjoke: status report? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 09:19, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
@Pseud 14: I'm not really a big fan of the new hook. It doesn't seem all that interesting to me. Onegreatjoke (talk) 18:52, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
@Onegreatjoke: I would argue that since Velasquez only did one theater stint and is a pop artist, it would make sense and would warrant interest to mention where she starred in and the role she played with respect to the concert series theme. However, if you find that there are other interesting facts that stand out better in the article than the hook(s) presented, feel free to suggest. @Theleekycauldron: I gather we can have a fresh set of eyes from other reviewers offer other perspective too, similar to other DYK reviews? Lmk if you have some suggestions as well. Pseud 14 (talk) 19:03, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
  • I have to agree with OGJ here. "Velasquez only did one theater stint and is a pop artist" is specialist knowledge, knowledge that I assume is lacking outside the Philippines (I say this as someone who saw Velasquez at a concert as a kid). I think ALT1 as written could have had potential to Filipino readers like myself, but I have reservations if it has broad enough appeal to non-Filipino readers. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:08, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
    • @Narutolovehinata5: added alternative hooks, you can suggest if you find something much more interesting too. Pseud 14 (talk) 19:06, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
I'm not sure if if ALT3 counts as a BLP violation, but if it doesn't then I think it's actually the best option here. ALT2 is kinda meh-ish. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:04, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
@Onegreatjoke: Thoughts on the new hooks? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:31, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
  The only hook I find interesting is alt3 but if that's considered too negative then i don't know. I'll approve it though. Onegreatjoke (talk) 20:19, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

Osney Martínez

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Improved to Good Article status by Krisgabwoosh (talk). Self-nominated at 09:31, 3 February 2023 (UTC). Note: As of October 2022, all changes made to promoted hooks will be logged by a bot. The log for this nomination can be found at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Osney Martínez, so please watch a successfully closed nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   @Krisgabwoosh: Good article. Though, I do think that inline citations are required for the claims made in the hook if i remember correctly and I didn't find that in the article. Onegreatjoke (talk) 02:00, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

Lovely's Purchase

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Created by GenQuest (talk). Self-nominated at 15:00, 29 January 2023 (UTC). Note: As of October 2022, all changes made to promoted hooks will be logged by a bot. The log for this nomination can be found at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Lovely's Purchase, so please watch a successfully closed nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

QPQ: Done.

Overall:   @GenQuest: Good article, but I can't seem to find the first hook anywhere in the article.

Onegreatjoke: See first sentence in the "Background" sub-section. GenQuest "scribble" 02:59, 4 February 2023 (UTC) Onegreatjoke (talk) 02:33, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

  I see Onegreatjoke (talk) 02:59, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

I added and additional ALT that I think reads better than the first. GenQuest "scribble" 18:03, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
@GenQuest: I wanted to promote this but was wondering why the last sentence of the "Major Lovely" paragraph didn't have a citation...thought it was probably an easy fix...then found that I can't seem to find a source referring to Lovely's multi-step purchase starting in 1813? I don't doubt that it exists somewhere, but I'm not seeing it in the Agnew article, in the Encyclopedia of Arkansas, or Muskogee Phoenix. Cielquiparle (talk) 03:22, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
@Cielquiparle: I fixed the confusion and mixed-up date. Thanks for pointing it out. GenQuest "scribble" 21:43, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 31

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Malinau Kota

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5x expanded by Nyanardsan (talk). Self-nominated at 00:09, 31 January 2023 (UTC). Note: As of October 2022, all changes made to promoted hooks will be logged by a bot. The log for this nomination can be found at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Malinau Kota, so please watch a successfully closed nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  • I suggest that this hook could be revised to say ALT1 ... that Malinau Kota, with only 31% of Malinau Regency's population, is home to more than 70% of its registered restaurants? --Metropolitan90 (talk) 07:11, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
  • Comment Needs to be located in Indonesia, unless "where the **** is Malinau Regency?" is supposed to add to hookiness. Johnbod (talk) 05:29, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
    • I mean, I guess so, but I don't think knowing the country is really necessary in order to understand the hook. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 07:25, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
  • Other problems:  N - Would like Johnbod's suggestion to be used.
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   @Nyanardsan: Good article. Did some copyediting for you. Though, I would like for you to use Johnbod's suggestion to make the hook work better. Onegreatjoke (talk) 18:22, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

  Better. Onegreatjoke (talk) 20:10, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Clock Tower of Haridwar

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Clock Tower of Haridwar

Created by Whispyhistory (talk) and Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Whispyhistory (talk) at 13:45, 7 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Clock Tower of Haridwar; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  • I'll review this one (my first DYK, I chose this because the two editors are experienced)
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   The article is well written and sourced but I do not get the hook, "painted in murals" does not make sense. AL1: ... that the Clock Tower (pictured) overlooking Har Ki Pauri has been covered in red and gold murals? or AL2: ... that the Clock Tower (pictured) overlooking Har Ki Pauri is a red and gold painted mural? you will need also to amend the article text to reflect that. Still the fact itself is not enough, why red and gold? (@Whispyhistory: and @Philafrenzy:) FuzzyMagma (talk) 11:07, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks @FuzzyMagma:... going through again and may come up with another hook. Sorry for delay... have had problems with internet for last few days. Will ping you when I am done. Whispyhistory (talk) 13:23, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
I suggest something along the lines of: "...that in ? the Clock Tower of Haridwar was painted in red and gold as part of an art project to celebrate ????" I couldn't make out the source given or see a mention of mythological stories based on the Vaimānika Shāstra. No doubt it's in the source somewhere. Philafrenzy (talk) 18:38, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
Thanks... @Philafrenzy:, @FuzzyMagma:... couldn't find the date it was painted. How about a different hook and possibly change image to the 2010 Kumbh Mela one? Whispyhistory (talk) 05:02, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
ALT2 is interesting (and is ok by me) @Whispyhistory:, and @Philafrenzy: version sounds “hokier” if they managed to complete it. Ping me if you finished that thought
@FuzzyMagma:... Hi. Please clarify if I need to do anything here. Whispyhistory (talk) 06:06, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
ALT2 is not interesting, and only adjacent to the article subject. We are going to need a better hook. Philafrenzy (talk) 09:52, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
@Philafrenzy: thanks for your objection. I will then wait for you to finish that thought, i.e., "...that in ? the Clock Tower of Haridwar was painted in red and gold as part of an art project to celebrate ????" FuzzyMagma (talk) 10:19, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
I can't do that because I don't know and neither does Whispyhistory it seems. I think the problem here is that the article itself is a bit of a mess, with lots of short sections that don't organise the information in a logical way that tells some sort of story. Having read it several times, I am still unclear why the tower was built and what its function is. I suggest a complete re-write. Philafrenzy (talk) 10:24, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
  • ALT3... that the Clock Tower of Haridwar (pictured) provides a good location from which to watch the daily evening Hindu prayers at Har Ki Pauri? There might be a better one about it being built for travellers before most people had watches but I don't see that in the stated sources. Philafrenzy (talk) 08:12, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
I see your point about ALT2 now. ALT3 is more relevant and reference 7 checks out (cannot access ref. 8). @Philafrenzy: and @Whispyhistory: can you please address the failed verification and clarification tags. If you solved ref. 3 verification issue than I think that fact can be an ALT4. If you decided to go with ALT3, can I ask we replace the proposed image by another one that includes the crowd (cropped from any image that contains a crowd). I will crop the image later if you agree with swapping the images … FuzzyMagma (talk) 18:23, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
come to think about the cropped image may not be clear at the DYK scale FuzzyMagma (talk) 18:24, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
Thank you both. I like ALT3. If you wish to change the image to one with the crowd then suggest it be an evening image (some here), or just leave to one of the clock. Whispyhistory (talk) 06:41, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
I changed the image to one with a crowd, it's more colourful too. The tags having been fixed, we should be good to go with ALT3. Philafrenzy (talk) 07:13, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
Actually, ALT3a... that the Clock Tower of Haridwar (pictured) provides a good location from where to watch the evening prayers at Har Ki Pauri? Philafrenzy (talk) 07:15, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
  Thanks for new image and fixing the tags. good to go. FuzzyMagma (talk) 07:40, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
With 3a? Philafrenzy (talk) 07:47, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
Changed which to where. Philafrenzy (talk) 07:35, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
using Where or which is correct in this context, so I have no issues with ALT3a or ALT3 although I think ALT3 is better in this context, at least it sounds better but I will leave this hanging fruit to whoever is closing this FuzzyMagma (talk) 10:42, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

The Crew Motorfest

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  • ... that The Crew Motorfest takes place in Oʻahu, the same place as the first two Test Drive Unlimited games which were previously worked on by the some of the same developers? Source: [18] and [19]
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    • Comment: If someone has any idea to word the hook better then feel free to tell me. Also, I'm including DecafPotato as an additional author since they helped me write a decent amount of this article.

Created by Blaze Wolf (talk) and DecafPotato (talk). Nominated by Blaze Wolf (talk) at 15:25, 3 February 2023 (UTC). Note: As of October 2022, all changes made to promoted hooks will be logged by a bot. The log for this nomination can be found at Template talk:Did you know nominations/The Crew Motorfest, so please watch a successfully closed nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  •   Newly created article about a video game. The article is long enough and sourced throughout. ALT0 is a bit confusing but makes sense when reading the article. It would have to be reworded to indicate what Ivory Tower is. I guess, instead of which were previously worked on by the director of Ivory Tower?, say which were previously worked on by the some of the same developers? QPQ is not needed as Blaze Wolf and DecafPotato have three DYK credits combined between them. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:36, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
    @Muboshgu: I like that. Sounds much better to me. Feel free to use that. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 02:27, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
  We aren't allowed to request DYK dates based on commercial releases, but in the case of this "upcoming" video game, it would be helpful to know when the game will finally be published, because at the moment this article is mainly written in future tense and relies too heavily on the vendor as a source, making it arguably too WP:PROMOTIONAL. Once the game is released, there will be reviews and more independent secondary sources we will be able to cite in the article. In any case I'm uncomfortable with this article going to the main page as is, but perhaps this can all be rectified in the near future. Cc: @Blaze Wolf, DecafPotato, and Muboshgu: Do we know? Cielquiparle (talk) 05:29, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

No Ma'am, That's Not History

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Converted from a redirect by Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk). Self-nominated at 17:52, 1 February 2023 (UTC). Note: As of October 2022, all changes made to promoted hooks will be logged by a bot. The log for this nomination can be found at Template talk:Did you know nominations/No Ma'am, That's Not History, so please watch a successfully closed nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  •   New enough, long enough, well sourced, Earwig says copyvio unlikely. QPQ is done. A few issues to resolve: Overall, the article seems to maintain a neutral tone, but "sin of hyperbole" in the first paragraph jumps out and sounds odd in wikivoice, even though I understand the intent was to frame it as an indirect quote. Would it be possible to resolve this somehow – possibly by using scare quotes, or just simplifying to say "criticized for hyperbole" or similar? Regarding the hook, at the moment, it seems like more information is needed in the article to support the claim that it "started a trend". The final paragraph could use at least one more sentence explaining the trend; I was also left wondering what it meant that "(FARMS) was founded and published 'Nibley-style apologetics and polemics'." Just a bit more elaboration there may go a long way. Cielquiparle (talk) 09:25, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
    Hi Cielquiparle, thank you for the review. I adjusted the information in the lead. Because there are so few neutral sources that discuss FARMS Review, I found it difficult to contextualize their work, but I tried to make it clear that the people who commented on it all had other interests (for example, that Daniel Peterson was the chairman of the board at FARMS and that Ron Priddis was the managing director at Signature Book). Maybe it's enough to explain that FARMS Review published book reviews for over 20 years. It's possible that I added too much information. From the part in the paragraph starting "FARMS Review contained a review..." I am essentially making an argument of parallelism--that the critiques Priddis made of the reviews in FARMS were similar to the critiques in No Ma'am. But since original research isn't allowed, I haven't explained that in the body of the text. If the context is sufficient without that example, I'm happy to remove it. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 18:47, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
  • @Cielquiparle: Just passing through and noticed this review still in the lurch. Have Helps's revisions addressed your questions? Do you need a different reviewer to pick up the torch? I'd offer, but I've made some minor contributions to the page (gnomish stuff + repeating adding a quote from the lede to the body text) and don't know if that'd disqualify me. P-Makoto (talk) 20:55, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
  Approving ALT0. The non-neutral statement in the lead has been fixed and more information has been added re: FARMS Review to add more context to the fact cited in the hook. (Unable to access the Mormon Studies: A Critical History beyond snippets, so AGF on the source.) Cielquiparle (talk) 23:10, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 1

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Hixxy

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Converted from a redirect by ResonantDistortion (talk). Self-nominated at 15:12, 2 February 2023 (UTC). Note: As of October 2022, all changes made to promoted hooks will be logged by a bot. The log for this nomination can be found at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Hixxy, so please watch a successfully closed nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  •   Hi ResonantDistortion, nice little article. Long enough, new enough, neutral, no close paraphrasing found. The hooks are technically true but slightly misleading as the song that created the schism was part of a collab with DJ Sharkey. Also is there anything that can be written about his early life? As a side note I found this book interesting, perhaps useful for expanding the article a bit. DigitalIceAge (talk) 01:34, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
  • Hi DigitalIceAge thank you for finding the new reference; I will look into whether I can access, and also whether I can find sufficient WP:RS to add detail on his early life. Good point about the hook, it was indeed a dual credit. I expect there are two options - we also include reference to the DJ Sharkey article, or adjust the text to 'co-created'. Alts added below - though I expect we need to improve Sharkeys article if ALT3 selected. Welcome your thoughts on best route? ResonantDistortion 19:33, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
  • ALT2: ... that in 1995 DJ Hixxy co-created a schism in the UK rave music scene? Source: Dazed Magazine
  • ALT3: ... that in 1995 DJs Hixxy and Sharkey created a schism in the UK rave music scene? Source: Dazed Magazine
  •   No prob. ALT3 seems the best phrased, I'll tick it. DigitalIceAge (talk) 23:28, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

Thomas Highgate

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Improved to Good Article status by Unexpectedlydian (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 17:58, 6 February 2023 (UTC). Note: As of October 2022, all changes made to promoted hooks will be logged by a bot. The log for this nomination can be found at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Thomas Highgate, so please watch a successfully closed nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   A good article, passes earwig and is adequately sourced. No close paraphrasing was found, and the hook is interesting, cited inline, and verified. QPQ done. Nom good to go. Pseud 14 (talk) 21:52, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

@Unexpectedlydian, Onegreatjoke, and Pseud 14: The hook fact appears in the lede without a citation...then later in the body text, it's worded differently "Highgate was the first British soldier to be shot for cowardice on the Western Front" which doesn't exactly match. (That particular wording suggests another British soldier might have been shot for something else before him.) Could you please address this somehow? Maybe the hook could match that particular wording more closely (or vice versa)? Cielquiparle (talk) 15:49, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
@Cielquiparle and Pseud 14: I guess we can try "... that Thomas Highgate was the first British soldier to be executed for cowardice on the Western Front of World War I?" Onegreatjoke (talk) 20:22, 23 February 2023 (UTC)


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Hodges Figgis

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5x expanded by SeoR (talk). Self-nominated at 00:02, 6 February 2023 (UTC). Note: As of October 2022, all changes made to promoted hooks will be logged by a bot. The log for this nomination can be found at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Hodges Figgis, so please watch a successfully closed nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  •   Article is new enough, long enough, neutral and mostly well-cited (there's a couple of sentences at the end of the "20th and 21st centuries" that don't end in citations, would recommend supplying each with one). As for the hook, ALT0 is interesting and most concise, though I think we can make it more concise (thus hookier) by abbreviating "Irish writers: 250 authors, poets and playwrights" to just "250 Irish writers". Also still waiting on a QPQ. DigitalIceAge (talk) 01:24, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
Many thanks DigitalIceAge. I will seek citations to add (I understand that the basic requirement is at least one per paragraph, and for direct quotes, but of course ideal to cover all key statements). I'm happy to make an even hookier ALT, I do see the risk of trying to put too much info upfront. It is a pity I can't just offer "probably the third oldest bookshop in the world" but that is hard to solidly ground in refs (#1 and #2 are pretty robustly referenced, but #3 and #4 Hatchards of London (interetsingly, both now within Waterstones) are simply not as authoritatively backed. QPQ is done and listed above (already in a Prep queue) - I just should have amended the comment, sorry! SeoR (talk) 10:04, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
Citation addition done for now. Extra alt as suggested, could go like:

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Coli Saco

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  • ... that footballer Coli Saco had to give up his first call-up to Napoli's first team for a Serie A match in January 2022, after he tested positive for COVID-19? Source: [20]
    "[Napoli's squad] has traveled to Turin for tonight's match against Juventus at the Allianz Stadium. Primavera's midfielder Coli Saco should have taken part in the game, too. [...] Step by step, he earned himself an opportunity to train with the first team and tonight, due to the unavailability of various players, he should have traveled for the match against Juventus. Saco himself wanted to write a regretful post on social media, due to his positivity [to COVID-19] and his subsequent omission from the match-day squad that went to Turin."
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    • Comment: Just a quick bit of information from a new article I've created yesterday. I hope I've done everything alright... Also, this is my third nomination overall, so I should still be below the QPQ minimum limit.

Created by Oltrepier (talk). Self-nominated at 13:46, 4 February 2023 (UTC). Note: As of October 2022, all changes made to promoted hooks will be logged by a bot. The log for this nomination can be found at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Coli Saco, so please watch a successfully closed nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  •   New enough created Feb 3 and nominated Feb 4, long enough at 2026 characters. Second nominations so no QPQ is needed. Copyvio detector does not find copyright violations. The article has the correct inline citations and is neutral. I spot checked the references and they check out, but would suggest not WP:OVERCITEing when using the inline citations. It is very distracting and not needed. The hook is cited and appears in the article but it is lacking context...as in call up to what? Maybe adding footballer to the hook? I will leave that to a nominator. Thanks for participating here! Bruxton (talk) 18:39, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
@Bruxton: Sorry, I don't know why I didn't receive any message, but I'm reading this just now... Anyway, thank you for your review! Yes, "footballer" is definitely useful for this matter. Also, to clarify, Saco was given the opportunity to travel with Napoli's senior squad for the first time, and that match would have given him an opportunity to make his debut both in the Italian top-tier (one of the so-called "Top Five" European leagues) and in a professional environment: however, all of this was made impossible by his positive COVID test. I hope this will be a better explanation. Oltrepier (talk) 16:26, 22 February 2023 (UTC)


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Sara Gadalla Gubara

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Created by FuzzyMagma (talk). Self-nominated at 02:00, 4 February 2023 (UTC). Note: As of October 2022, all changes made to promoted hooks will be logged by a bot. The log for this nomination can be found at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Sarah Gadallah Gubara, so please watch a successfully closed nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  • I'll review this one! Taung Tan (talk) 18:26, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y

QPQ:  N - not needed
Overall:   As clever as this hook is, I'm afraid that the source of the hook https://www.assayha.net/ is reliable or not. I'm not sure if https://www.unicef.org/ can be used as a source at the DYK. Please explain the source's reliability. Taung Tan (talk) 18:26, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

Taung Tan newspaper shout is a respected Sudanese newspaper although it is diffcult to prove this. There are some news excerpts from around that time but it is in arabic so I am not sure who much I am stretching your kidness, and a picture for the winners (she is next to the guy in the front with glasses . There are other sources including France24 eluded to that + The UNICEF also talk about the race + Sudan Jorunal but not in details, there is a detailed account at Alarabya, a online blog written by a Sudanese historian, Sara's TEDxTalk and nationl TV interview which includes some images. I hope on of these stick.

  •   It qualified for approval after I reviewed the sources. So it's good to go. Taung Tan (talk) 19:03, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
    Taung Tan, in which case you may wish to change "cited" to yes. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:42, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
    @Gog the Mild and Taung Tan: I should let y'all know that in general, it's best to leave initial reviews as-is, so that promoters know what went down at a glance when trying to close up a nom. Many thanks! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 10:00, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
  • FuzzyMagma and Taung Tan, earwig picked up a sentence in the article that appears to be virtually the same as one in the cited source. the source is dated 2010, while the wikipedia article was recently created.
article:     Her documentary film The Lover of Light (2004) is both a metaphor for Gadalla Gubara and for his interest in bringing social issues to light through filmmaking.
source:     Sara's film The Lover of Light (2004) is both a metaphor of Gadalla Gubara and of his interest in bringing social issues to light through filmmaking.
also, although there aren't many english sources, i picked one of them at random, and it doesn't seem to support the text for which it is cited. the source is used following a paragraph covering gadalla gubara's tertiary education, but the source doesn't seem to mention her tertiary education at all. i admittedly stopped checking sources after that. dying (talk) 20:30, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
@Dying:, the sentence was taken from Cinema of Sudan (before ref 23). I have now rephrased it. Reference 19, was also copied over from the lede of Gadalla Gubara, ref. 2 (also indicated in the edit). I should have checked, and sorry for not doing that. I have now moved to where it belongs, near ref (26). It is now being replaced by Ref. 10, 6, and 19 — Preceding unsigned comment added by FuzzyMagma (talk • contribs)
FuzzyMagma, that is good to know. thank you for clearing that up. (by the way, the title of the documentary should have remained in italics when you were rephrasing the sentence mentioned above, as placing the title in italics is not a personal decision, but a general english standard. more details regarding how wikipedia treats titles of works can be found at mos:title.  Done FuzzyMagma (talk) 12:00, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
unfortunately, i am now also worried about the quality of the sources provided. i decided to take a look at the arabic sources, and the first one i looked at, the sudaneseonline source, appears to be a message board, which is not a reliable source. depends on who wrote it? not all sources are BBC and NYT. I mentioned above who wrote it and why I think it can be seen as reliable. anyway can be removed if contested further FuzzyMagma (talk) 12:00, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
admittedly, i stopped looking at arabic sources after that. i also noticed that the article was originally translated from ar wikipedia. as i am not fluent in arabic, i cannot competently check for copyright violations or instances of close paraphrasing with regard to the arabic sources, which may have existed in the ar wikipedia article before you translated it. I am not sure casting doubts without an evidence is a good thing as it can be easily interrupted as assuming bad faith. Please either give evidence to your claims or refrain from being too hypothetical FuzzyMagma (talk) 12:00, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
due to these issues, i do not feel comfortable promoting this hook at this time. your opinion is noted, and again can be easily amended - at least the point were you provided a ground for doubts. anyhow there is already an endorsement and a DYK check above FuzzyMagma (talk) 12:00, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
anyone else is free to promote this hook if they are confident enough in the quality of the hook and the article, you did not mention anything about the hook itself in your argument, so I am not sure why now you are mentioning the quality of the hook FuzzyMagma (talk) 12:00, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
or request a more in-depth review if they believe it is warranted. i do want to see this article promoted, as i had initially looked over this nomination intending to promote it, but i don't think i am competent enough to give this nomination a proper review. dying (talk) 11:39, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
@Dying: in-line response FuzzyMagma (talk) 12:07, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Panzer Dragoon Orta

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Improved to Good Article status by Bryanrutherford0 (talk) and ProtoDrake (talk). Nominated by Bryanrutherford0 (talk) at 15:03, 4 February 2023 (UTC). Note: As of October 2022, all changes made to promoted hooks will be logged by a bot. The log for this nomination can be found at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Panzer Dragoon Orta, so please watch a successfully closed nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited:  N - n
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   @Bryanrutherford0: Good article, but I have a problem with the hook. Firstly, I feel that saying most sources calling it a sequel would need to be a bit more supported, especially since the article mentions "Pre-release interviews stated that Orta was a sequel to the other Panzer Dragoon games and set decades after the events of Saga" which isn't really the same thing for me. Onegreatjoke (talk) 23:29, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

  • That's a fair point. Maybe it could be rewritten to be closer to the wording in the text of the article? -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 02:26, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
  • ALT1: ... that although previews called Panzer Dragoon Orta's story a sequel to Panzer Dragoon Saga's, developers have said that it might reflect an alternative timeline?
  I'd say that's a better hook. Onegreatjoke (talk) 18:03, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

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Muhammad al-Jawad

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Improved to Good Article status by Ghazaalch (talk) and Albertatiran (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 22:01, 8 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Muhammad al-Jawad; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   Earwig finds a few similar phrases, but they are common phrases which I believe do not count as copyvio. ALT1 checks out in citation 3 here ("shortest lived"). I prefer ALT1. I don't think we can use ALT0, because the information in it is to be expected. Just one issue of presentation:

  • The name of the biography subject should appear at or near the beginning of every paragraph ("he" or "his" causes confusion). There is only one to correct: "During his imamate, Shia activists".

When that issue can be resolved, this nom should be good to go with ALT1.. Storye book (talk) 12:26, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

@Storye book: I believe i've fixed it. Onegreatjoke (talk) 04:14, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
Thank you, Onegreatjoke, you have, indeed. Storye book (talk) 10:16, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
  Good to go with ALT1. Storye book (talk) 10:16, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
@Onegreatjoke and Storye book:Isn't it kind of odd to say "he was the youngest to die"? One of the sources says he was "the shortest-lived" which makes more sense but I know it doesn't sound nice. Not sure how to fix or if anyone else picked up on that. "He died at the youngest age" / "He died youngest"? Cielquiparle (talk) 11:33, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
I think ALT1 sounds fine, and the meaning is clear. However, here is an ALT2 as an available alternative, if someone would please approve it for us? Thank you. Storye book (talk) 15:58, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
ALT2: ... that Muhammad al-Jawad is the ninth of the Twelve Imams and, with his unexplained death at about twenty-five, the youngest of them to die? Storye book (talk) 15:58, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Ralph E. Brock

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Ralph E. Brock, c. 1903

Created by Topshelver (talk). Nominated by MyCatIsAChonk (talk) at 23:45, 11 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Ralph E. Brock; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

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@MyCatIsAChonk: I am terribly sorry–I must have missed your first ping. Please bear with me a moment. Again, my sincerest apologies. ~ Pbritti (talk) 00:51, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

  Issues resolved. Thank you for your patience. My goodness, I'm terribly sorry I had you waiting. Thank you for pinging me now. ~ Pbritti (talk) 00:54, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

Lucy Adlington

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Created by RAJIVVASUDEV (talk). Self-nominated at 03:48, 5 February 2023 (UTC). Note: As of October 2022, all changes made to promoted hooks will be logged by a bot. The log for this nomination can be found at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Lucy Adlington, so please watch a successfully closed nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  • I'll take this one. SusunW (talk) 15:35, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
  Created 1 Feb., nom 5 Feb. – new enough; 2580 char – long enough; neutral; does not appear to have copyvio issues per a review of sourcing; QPQ done; no photo. Citations were missing for several of the publications. I've added most, you need to add a source for Summerland. Hook 0: 132 char – under maximum; verified; but no where in the article does it state that the women survived. You need to specifically state that information, followed by a citation to use that hook. Alt 1: 128 char – under maximum; stated in article; however, source (although dated in January) states the exhibition begins on "Saturday February 4". Hook needs to be corrected to run. IMO 0 is the most interesting, but is close to the recent hook on Kohút. Could you make a hook that combines her work in young adult fiction and her books or exhibits on fashion? I think that would have broader appeal. SusunW (talk) 16:13, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
@SusunW: I've cited Summerland, corrected the January/February hook, and rephrased a sentence to support the survived hook using Camerlengoa, who describes the account of "a group of Jewish women who survived Auschwitz—perhaps the most infamous of all World War II death camps—by making high-fashion ball gowns and cocktail dresses for the wives of Nazi officers."
GTG. Mary Mark Ockerbloom, thank you for addressing the issues. I have approved the two proposed hooks, but if you want to take a stab at a hook that combines her areas of expertise, I'm happy to look at it again. SusunW (talk) 17:20, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
  Moved symbol. Thanks for making them RAJIVVASUDEV. Alts 2 and 3 also short enough and cited, although I'd replace "sufferings" in Alt 3 with either resilience or hardships (resilience because they survived, hardships is evident). Promoter can decide which one. SusunW (talk) 14:56, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
@RAJIVVASUDEV, SusunW, and Mary Mark Ockerbloom: I was going to promote this...but the hook idea that jumped out at me while reading the article is:
  • ALT4: ... that after publishing a fictional account of women who survived a Nazi concentration camp by sewing fashionable dresses, historian Lucy Adlington was contacted by descendants of actual dressmakers?
What do you think? Cielquiparle (talk) 15:04, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
Cielquiparle I like it. It's sourced, stated, and short enough. (FYI, I am on vacation and mostly not able to respond until next week. I happened to be checking a venue, so I saw this.) SusunW (talk) 15:23, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
Cielquiparle [Hook length is long but not exceeding the limit, 197 characters] I am also okay with the same. Thanks RV (talk) 09:51, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

R3.0 (concert)

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Created by Pseud 14 (talk). Self-nominated at 21:54, 8 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/R3.0 (concert); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  ?
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   @Pseud 14: Article created on Feb 5 and is long enough. The article is well sourced except for the 2 paragraphs mentioned above. Hook is long enough and sourced in the article. I'm not sure if the hook is interesting as it looks like the album's release coinciding with the concert's opening night was just pure coincidence. Copyvio shows 53.7% from Billboard but that's due to the song titles being included. There's also a 46.5% similarity with the Philippine Daily Inquirer so the blockquote should either be paraphrased or removed. QPQ has been completed. One last thing, Kara Bodegon didn't write the review for Billboard, she took the picture that was included in the article. Sebbirrrr (talk) 16:57, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

@Sebbirrrr: For the hook, the release isn't a coincidence, it was planned since the concert's announcement, which included releasing two singles, teasers leading up to the show. I think because it's a triple album and coinciding a 30th anniversary celebration, it would warrant interest. Sources also in the article would support that intention ([22] [23]). For the synopsis, per WP:PLOT this section ideally does not require sources (similarly used for films, etc). I have added sourcing otherwise. As for the copyvio concern, I have removed the blockquote. As for Kara, in this Billboard article she is listed as the writer. I would AGF that since she's been covering the subject leading up to the concert, she had took the helm of taking the pictures and writing the review, albeit not being listed on it. Pseud 14 (talk) 17:39, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
@Pseud 14:   Thanks for explaining! Everything is fine now regarding the plot and the blockquote (as well as the Billboard author). As the album release was planned, I agree with the fact that it could create interest towards the concert. Good to go! Sebbirrrr (talk) 19:56, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

WDCW

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Improved to Good Article status by Sammi Brie (talk). Self-nominated at 06:36, 5 February 2023 (UTC). Note: As of October 2022, all changes made to promoted hooks will be logged by a bot. The log for this nomination can be found at Template talk:Did you know nominations/WDCW, so please watch a successfully closed nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   @Sammi Brie: Good article. Onegreatjoke (talk) 18:13, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

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Polyptych of Saint Barbara

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Palma's Saint Barbara

Created by Ficaia (talk). Self-nominated at 13:02, 12 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Polyptych of Saint Barbara (Palma Vecchio); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  • Is the hook implying that women generally don't have a noble serenity? That's how I'm reading it, at least... theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 09:57, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
  • I think "noble serenity" is a pretty rare quality. I think he's saying she has the best divine characteristics of a saint and the best human characteristics of a woman. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 10:03, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
  •   The article is new enough and nominated timely. It is long enough and is well referenced and cited. I found no copyright violations; AGF for the sources that are not available online. The hook is interesting and sourced, and its length is OK. The image is excellent and is in the public domain; the caption is OK. QPQ was done. So overall it passes for DYK. However I have two questions for the author: I wonder if the hook might be clearer if it said "Palma Vecchio's polyptych of Saint Barbara" instead of simply "Palma Vecchio's Saint Barbara"? And a question about the article's title: Why is the title "Polyptych of Saint Barbara (Palma Vecchio)" instead of simply "Polyptych of Saint Barbara"? There are no other articles about polyptychs of Saint Barbara so I don't see the need for disambiguation. Let's discuss these two issues. -- MelanieN (talk) 17:32, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
  • @MelanieN: 1. I think the source is talking about the Saint Barbara panel specifically, not the whole altarpiece. 2. On second thought, I've moved the article as you suggest. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 01:19, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
  •   Thanks, looks good to me. Ready to go. -- MelanieN (talk) 03:34, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
  • Note to promoting administrator: The title of this article, and the title of the nomination template, have been changed from "Polyptych of Saint Barbara (Palma Vecchio)" to "Polyptych of Saint Barbara". -- MelanieN (talk) 03:40, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Comparative hearing

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Converted from a redirect by Sammi Brie (talk). Self-nominated at 01:22, 11 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Comparative hearing; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  •   I'm not really sure either hook meets the "intriguingness to a broad audience" criterion as currently written. Non-American readers may not know what the Bechtel test is, while ALT1's hook is a bit hard to understand as currently written. Perhaps some revision to ALT1 is in order here? I think that angle has more promise than the first hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:11, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
    • That's fair. This is a dry one from me but dozens of my articles were calling for it including several GA reviews. @Narutolovehinata5: Have an ALT1: Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 08:26, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
ALT1a: ... that the first TV license lottery in the United States used equipment borrowed from the Vietnam War-era draft? Source: https://search.proquest.com/docview/147522526 and https://www.newspapers.com/clip/118389846/tv-license-lottery-fcc-rolls-out-the-ba/
Sounds good. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:08, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
  •   At this moment I don't have the time or motivation to do a full review of this nomination anymore so I'd like to ask for a reviewer to make a full review; however per the above discussion I've struck ALT0 and ALT1. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:17, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
  • Grabbing spot to review tomorrow. Just noting first that the first sentence doesn't use the words "TV" or "lottery" (and is generally unwieldy to read). Hameltion (talk | contribs) 04:27, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
  • OK, here's review. @Sammi Brie: New enough, long enough, neutral and well-cited but there are some issues with readability to address ( ). Earwig shows nothing.
  • The first sentence of each lede paragraph is very confusing, with so many clauses within clauses. But more generally, I don't come away understanding what a comparative hearing was - is this a public process, like a trial? is there a lottery component, or is that a different process? was this the main method of resolving station ownership bids, or is this a secondary thing?
  • "introduced an aspect of public interest concerns" - can this be better phrased? and the whole Introduction section seems to be lacking - this might be resolved by making an Overview section, perhaps
  • The word "hearing" appears only once after the first mention - this may be contributing to my confusion
  • FWIW, I still like ALT0 a lot, solid pun even if not everybody gets it, unstruck. ALT1a reads fine, but as above is this article about lotteries or hearings? And a minor point, Vietnam isn't explicitly mentioned in the article. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 15:16, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
  • @Hameltion: Fixed the Vietnam issue (the sources do justify this). I also did a bit of a reword. This was the primary method, but the lotteries were a secondary thing. There were oral hearings among lawyers, mostly in Washington. Does that help? Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 08:42, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
  •   Approve ALT0. ALT1a does not focus on the main subject of the article. Still think the first sentence could be made clearer for total noobs, but the small expansion to the Introduction section does help. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 12:33, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 7

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Parker House (Sea Girt, New Jersey)

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The Parker House in 2014

Created by Red-tailed hawk (talk). Self-nominated at 22:12, 7 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Parker House (Sea Girt, New Jersey); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  •   Article is neutral, meets the required length, and is sufficiently referenced (my only recommendation would be to add references to the opening footnote). Moved from draftspace on the same day as nomination. QPQ looks good (in progress). Hooks are interesting, succinct, and reliably sourced. Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and suitable at a small size. This is good to go! – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 00:41, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 9

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Mafeje affair

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Created by FuzzyMagma (talk). Self-nominated at 17:22, 9 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/The Mafeje Affair; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  • I'd prefer to give the individual credit by name in the hook. Also, the sources cited spell "outlook" as one word rather than hyphenated; there's an image in the article of a hyphenated "out-look" but that's over a line break. So I would recommend ALT1: "... that the apartheid South African government pressured the University of Cape Town to rescind a job offer to Archie Mafeje as it would flout "the accepted traditional outlook of South Africa"?" --Metropolitan90 (talk) 01:54, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
Agree, but instead of “ to rescind a job offer” use “ to rescind its job offer” FuzzyMagma (talk) 02:32, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
@Metropolitan90: forgot to ping
  • Claim spot, review to come tonight. @FuzzyMagma: Made copyedits as I read. ALT1 is suitable for the main page (AGF on refs behind paywall). Article is neutral and well cited, QPQ there. However, the article is not technically new enough by DYK criteria - most (I'd guess at least 60%) of the text appears in the first version of Archie Mafeje when it was moved to mainspace on 30 December 2022, and Mafeje affair was split off and nominated on 9 February 2023. It's a shame because this is a very good hook, and the article meets all other criteria. Either   or  , will leave to others' eyes. @Metropolitan90, BlueMoonset, and Theleekycauldron: could I ping you for your thoughts? Hameltion (talk | contribs) 02:54, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

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Kainé

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Improved to Good Article status by ProtoDrake (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 01:10, 16 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Kainé; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited:  Y - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting:  Y
  • Other problems:  N - ?
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   Article and hook both look great, I can verify the English-language sources but AGF on the hook source since it's in Japanese. My only worry is that the hook might be bit unclear to people who don't know that Kaine is a videogame character. The hook isn't bad it's just that the wording of "a female staff member" feels clunky out of context. BuySomeApples (talk) 08:38, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

@BuySomeApples and ProtoDrake: How does this sound?
ALT0a ... that Kainé from the video game series Nier was created in response to a female staff member's vague wish for a "male heroine"?
Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:53, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
  I like it @Narutolovehinata5: approving ALT0a unless @ProtoDrake: has any objections. BuySomeApples (talk) 08:42, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
I have no objections. And I can confirm (having translated and double-checked it for the GAR) the JP source backs up this claim. --ProtoDrake (talk) 10:44, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Newark Liberty International Airport

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View of Newark Liberty International Airport

Improved to Good Article status by Jibreel23 (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 14:31, 16 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Newark Liberty International Airport; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  •   Excellent article. Promoted to GA recently enough, long enough, neutral, well-sourced, no copyvio or other issues, interesting, hook cited in-line, QPQ done. ALT0 is nice and punchy. One question before approval: the cited source specifies first commercial airport. That may be in acknowledgment of Ford Field, a private airfield whose airstrips were paved in 1928 according to Flying Magazine. @Onegreatjoke: or @Jibreel23:, does your research lead you to believe that Newark Liberty is definitely the first US airport of any kind with a paved airstrip? If open to debate, please consider specifying "first major airport" or "first commercial airport" in the hook and perhaps also in the article. Thanks so much! Topshelver (talk) 13:50, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

@Topshelver: I corrected the article, but I am not sure if I can help with the DYK as I do not know how to do it. Jibreel23 (talk) 14:21, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for correcting the article! Once Onegreatjoke has updated the hook, I will mark this DYK as approved. Topshelver (talk) 15:36, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
@Topshelver: Updated hook. Onegreatjoke (talk) 20:15, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
  Good to go. Topshelver (talk) 16:11, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Stan Robb

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Robb in college

5x expanded by BeanieFan11 (talk). Self-nominated at 21:43, 17 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Stan Robb; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  •   Confirmed 5x expansion on an existing article within the standard DYK time frame. Article is well sourced via Newspapers.com citations, all paragraphs cited and nothing appearing to be uncited. Hook fact is interesting enough and cited inline in the text. Image is PD and good enough to use at that size. QPQ is not yet provided and I'm sure will come soon @BeanieFan11:. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:22, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
@Muboshgu: Reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Mark Robinson (martial artist) as a QPQ. BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:22, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
  Good to go. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:43, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

Meriden, Waterbury and Connecticut River Railroad

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Created by Locomotive207 (talk) and Trainsandotherthings (talk). Nominated by Locomotive207 at 02:50, 12 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Meriden, Waterbury and Connecticut River Railroad; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  • Comment Hi Locomotive207, thanks for creating this article. I have edited the article and plan to make some substantial improvements today, so I'm recusing from reviewing, but I don't think the current hook is very compelling. Railroads near rivers flooding is a fairly routine occurrence (even more so in the 1800s before the advent of national flood control legislation); I do not think the proposed hook meets the interesting criterion. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:37, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
Trainsandotherthings, thank you so much for your expansion and GA nom. You've added a level of content and detail to this article that I never could have added with my limited sources. With regards to the hook, I agree it may be a little dull. I'll draft up an ALT1 and see what the reviewer thinks.--🚂Locomotive207-talk🚂 21:31, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
I suggest ALT1: "... that the Meriden, Waterbury and Connecticut River Railroad was shut down just 11 years after it opened?" Source: Karr, Ronald Dale (2017). The Rail Lines of Southern New England (2nd ed.). Pepperell, Massachusetts: Branch Line Press. p. 89 Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:10, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
That seems like a good hook. I've also added an ALT2 which is pretty similar to yours but longer just in case. Thanks for the review Epicgenius.--🚂Locomotive207-talk🚂 21:17, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
@Locomotive207: Thanks for the response. Sadly, at 204 characters, ALT2 exceeds the 200-character maximum. It's unnecessarily wordy - for instance, you can say "created" instead of "which was originally created". This conveys the exact same thing: "... that the Meriden, Waterbury and Connecticut River Railroad, created as an alternative to the New Haven Railroad, was absorbed into the New Haven after just 11 years?"
I've also modified the hook so it links directly to New York, New Haven and Hartford Railroad, rather than to the redirect New Haven Railroad, as redirects should not be linked from the Main Page. Epicgenius (talk) 23:23, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
My bad on that one, Epicgenius. I've added the edited-down version to the top as ALT3. At this point, either ALT1 or ALT3 should be good to go.--🚂Locomotive207-talk🚂 01:53, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: None required.

Overall:   Nice work on this article. I'm crediting Trainsandotherthings for this nomination as well, given his exceptional work on the article. The nominator, Locomotive207, has fewer than five QPQs at this moment, so the QPQ requirement is satisfied. ALT1 is good to go, but I don't think the original hook will be interesting to a broad audience, so I have stricken it. Epicgenius (talk) 15:55, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

References

  1. ↑ Chichester, Ryan. "THROWBACK THURSDAY: Looking back at the Meriden-Cromwell Railroad". myrecordjournal.com. Record-Journal. Retrieved February 9, 2023.

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Kilometer 101

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Maxim Osipov, author of Kilometer 101, in 2014

Moved to mainspace by Daniel-Thater (talk). Nominated by MyCatIsAChonk (talk) at 02:56, 16 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Kilometer 101; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  •   The book sounds interesting, but parts of this article are really unclear. In the lede it is called a full-length essay collection and a nonfiction book, but then it says it also contains short fiction. Better would be to say in the first sentence that it is a collection that contains both nonfiction essays and short story fiction. Then the structure isn't clear – is all of Part 1 fiction and all of Part 2 essays, with one essay at the very beginning before the two parts? I think so, but that should be stated explicitly. Then the tone in the "Synopsis" section is more than a bit off for Wikipedia. It's both too informal (especially in the contractions) and too interpretative (as two of many examples, by focusing on interiority, Osipov’s narratives resolve within the characters themselves. and Despite all of this, Osipov reaches a tenuous depiction of Russian culture and identity). Indeed, things that read like this often turn out to be copyvio issues. I'm not saying that's the case here, but it's an indication that a rewrite, or quoting/citing to interpretative sources, is called for. Finally, the article should be added to categories such as Category:Russian short story collections and Category:2020s essays and possibly others. Wasted Time R (talk) 15:27, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
    • @Wasted Time R: Thank you for your review; I've overhauled the article and added citations to the more interpretive pats of "Content and themes" as well as addressed the confusion surrounding what type of book it is. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) 00:08, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
      • @Wasted Time R: Is there anything else you'd like me to do? MyCatIsAChonk (talk) 00:49, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
        • Sorry, I saw your response a few days ago and then lost track of it. The article is better structured now, but I am still confused about the part titles – the lede says the parts are called "Stories" and "Essays" but the content and themes section says they are called "Luxemburg" and "Kilometer 101" – which is it? And the background section talks about "the fictional essays" which sounds like an oxymoron, which part is that referring to? Wasted Time R (talk) 01:07, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
Just a comment, but the hook says 2020 when it seems like 2022 is more accurate. BuySomeApples (talk) 08:44, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
Oh, that must've been a typo, thanks for clarifying that. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) 17:23, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
@MyCatIsAChonk: Sorry about another delay. But I have concerns about text-source correspondence with the article as it stands. I will give two examples though I strongly suspect there are more. The entire paragraph about "Sventa" is cited to the Polly Jones TLS piece. Yet that review never mentions that it's written in the second person and presents a different interpretation ("fruitless quest") about the conclusion of the essay. Later, the Maria Lipman Foreign Affairs review is said to say the book concerns "a doctor fighting a losing battle in a provincial Russian town that doesn’t prioritize health." But Lipman's review, while it does mention alcohol, doesn't say that. (I did see it in one of the other sources, don't recall where now.) So I think you need to go through line by line in this article, with all the sources open, and make sure that the citing in the article correctly maps to which sources support what. Wasted Time R (talk) 12:48, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
@Wasted Time R: Thanks for getting back to me. For the issue in "Reception", I cut that statement. Secondly, in "Content and themes", I find it difficult to distinguish what complies with MOS:PLOT and what doesn't. I've gone through this like you said, but there are some statements that aren't cited as I believe they comply with plot summary guidelines. Do you feel they're ok now? MyCatIsAChonk (talk) 14:13, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
@MyCatIsAChonk: Well, what's there now in the "Content and themes" section is a mixture of uncited PLOT and cited observations. Unorthodox, but maybe it is okay. Separately, I have done a bunch of copyedits to the article for clarity and MoS conformance and citing at the beginning. However I see there are a couple of issues with the hook, besides the year correction that was already made. First, it is not an essay collection, as it has short stories also, so the hook should just say 'collection'. Second, is there any source that says it was compiled after the Russian invasion? It was published after the invasion, yes, but given normal publisher timelines, I would guess that the volume may have already been in the works before February 2022. Wasted Time R (talk) 11:49, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
@Wasted Time R: Thanks for the copyediting. I think it's ok to call it an essay collection. Merriam-Webster describes an essay as "an analytic or interpretative literary composition usually dealing with its subject from a limited or personal point of view". Since the short stories are based on Osipov's experiences, I personally believe it fits the description. On the compilation, I'm not sure- none of the sources specifically state that, so I do see a problem too. Here's an ALT proposal, just replacing "compiled" with "published":
ALT1: ... that the 2022 essay collection Kilometer 101 was published shortly after the author fled Russia due to the outbreak of the Russo-Ukrainian War?
Thoughts? MyCatIsAChonk (talk) 16:44, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
@MyCatIsAChonk: I'm not trying to be difficult, but essays are non-fiction and short stories are fiction and they really are two different things. See for example this from Palomar College or this from Writer's Digest. And wording that indicates the collection contains both essays and stories would actually make for a more compelling hook. Wasted Time R (talk) 22:52, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
@Wasted Time R: Ok, thank you for clarifying that. How about these:
ALT2: ... that the 2022 essay and short story collection Kilometer 101 was published shortly after the author fled Russia due to the outbreak of the Russo-Ukrainian War?
ALT3: ... that Maxim Osipov's Kilometer 101 contains both personal essays about Osipov's time in provincial Russia and short stories based on these experiences?
MyCatIsAChonk (talk) 23:29, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
  Okay, this is good to go with either ALT2 or ALT3, the DYK promoter can decide which fits best with whatever's going up in that set. Wasted Time R (talk) 00:25, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

Proposed new South Shore Line station in South Bend

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Improved to Good Article status by SecretName101 (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 15:26, 16 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Proposed new South Shore Line station in South Bend; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  • The hook doesn't sound all that interesting to me. Perhaps you should mention how long the proposals have been going on for. The article mentions that there were plans to relocate the station since 2006, an environmental study in 2008, and a financial estimate in 2013. Perhaps:
ALT1: ... that the construction of a new station has been proposed in South Bend, Indiana for the South Shore Line since 2006? https://www.southbendtribune.com/news/local/next-stop-downtown-buttigieg-wants-south-shore-to-run-into/article_c56e5214-9907-5273-a286-7306e2b6ce0e.html
@PizzaKing13: We can do ALT2: "... that there have been many proposals for a new station at South Bend, Indiana for the South Shore Line since 2006? Onegreatjoke (talk) 20:06, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
ALT2 looks good to me. New enough GA, long enough, hook is interesting, neutral, sourced, no copyright vios. PizzaKing13 ¡Hablame! 20:46, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   PizzaKing13 ¡Hablame! 06:02, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

Russell Court

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Russell Court in 2023
  • ... that London's Russell Court (pictured) has more than 500 "bachelor flats"? Source: Clunn, Harold P. (1951) The Face of London: The record of a century's changes and development. New edition. London: Spring Books. p. 134.

5x expanded by Philafrenzy (talk) and Whispyhistory (talk). Self-nominated at 22:03, 19 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Russell Court; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  •   New and long enuf, seems neutral and well-written (to be picky, it was created on Feb 11, so is new rather than a 5x expansion). Hook checks out, except they say "some 501 flats" - as the managers you'd think they knew the exact number .... Is everything in the lead referenced somewhere (eg "L-shaped")? Earwig finds nothing. You're avoiding calling it Art Deco I see - is there a reason? Also explaining the name - presumably it is or was part of the Bedford Estate. Personally I'd go with "that Russell Court in Bloomsbury, London....".

Johnbod (talk) 04:37, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks John. It's too late to be pure deco and lacking in the colour and ornamentation of that style. I would say it is streamline moderne but I don't have a source for that, hence the description of modernist which I don't think anyone could argue with. I saw somewhere that it was built very cheaply and that is no doubt one benefit of the stripped-back streamline moderne style over pure deco. It's not listed so we don't have that source to refer to. Good compare and contrast here and the examples here and immediately below firmly place it in the moderne style. I have nothing about it being in the Bedford Estate. I would think it wasn't because they would never have let go of the freehold. (There's a rule somewhere that you don't have to source self-evident facts - "L shaped", London is the capital of the UK etc. Can't remember where. It's L shape is on a hundred street maps of London.) Philafrenzy (talk) 03:41, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
Ok, GTG as I said, but the hook should be changed as above. Johnbod (talk) 16:40, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
ALT1 ... that Russell Court (pictured) in Bloomsbury, London, has more than 500 "bachelor flats"? Philafrenzy (talk) 06:29, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Harry Bolick

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Created by BeanieFan11 (talk). Self-nominated at 21:54, 17 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Harry Bolick; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y

QPQ:  N - Not done
Overall:   @BeanieFan11: Good article. Just waiting on a QPQ Onegreatjoke (talk) 18:13, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

  QPQ has been provided. Onegreatjoke (talk) 15:08, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
@BeanieFan11 and Onegreatjoke: ALT0 is interesting, however we are making an assumption with the hook and in our article by saying, "meaning he had to buy all the equipment and recruit all the players for his team". The references do not say this from what I have read. They just say he faced shortages and had to solve the problem of getting equipment. I think ALT0 needs to be modified. Bruxton (talk) 21:18, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
@Bruxton: Changed to "get all the equipment." BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:29, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
Also, one more ALT hook I thought of in case there's issues with the others:
ALT2: ... that American football fullback Harry Bolick was described as being a more effective blocker than an iron fence? Source: Coach Walter Johnson couldn't have built an iron fence for better safeguard than Bolick
BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:33, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
Thanks @BeanieFan11: Bruxton (talk) 21:39, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
  • Actually, after thinking about it, I think I like the iron fence hook more than that he had to get the equipment and players. So if its okay I'd prefer that be the one to get promoted. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:42, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for the prompt attention, to use a new hook we have to ping the reviewer @Onegreatjoke: Bruxton (talk) 22:01, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
  Better hook. Onegreatjoke (talk) 23:13, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

Ron Labinski

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Created by Acroterion (talk). Self-nominated at 22:19, 12 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Ron Labinski; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   Article is long enough with adequate sourcing. Hook is interesting enough. @Acroterion: Could you please provide a QPQ in a timely manner? We are all good to go. Imcdc Contact 16:25, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

Yes, I'll do one this evening or tomorrow. Acroterion (talk) 17:40, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
Real Life has thrown a curve ball, I'll do a review as soon as I can. Acroterion (talk) 12:52, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

Panagiotis Kavvadias

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  • ... that Panagiotis Kavvadias boasted that he excavated the Acropolis of Athens so thoroughly that "not the slightest quantity of soil ... [had] not been investigated"? Source: Quoted in Mallouchou-Tufano, Fani (2007). "The Vicissitudes of the Athenian Acropolis in the Nineteenth Century: From Castle to Monument". In Vanavalis, Panos (ed.). Great Moments in Greek Archaeology. Athens: Kapon Press. pp. 36–57. ISBN 9780892369102, p. 51
    • Reviewed:

Improved to Good Article status by UndercoverClassicist (talk). Self-nominated at 20:49, 12 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Panagiotis Kavvadias; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  •   New high-quality GA. Short and interesting hook, supported in the article and confirmed through Google Books. Third DYK nom so doesn't need QPQ. All looks very good, nice job. Ffranc (talk) 11:07, 14 February 2023 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on February 13

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Iconic (concert)

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Created by Pseud 14 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:23, 19 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Iconic (concert); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  •   New enough, long enough. Earwig comes back high just because there are some quotes and the use of song names, so cleared of any copyvio issue. Sourcing is present throughout the article and the hooks are sourced; I would perhaps alter the phrasing of the first hook, though, to remove the trailing modifier "in the Philippines". While it's perhaps implied, it's not explicit in the source and not added in the article. I also think the more experienced DYK team should weigh in on whether the terminology "the Daily Tribune referred" is correct–typically statements like this should be attributed to the person that made them, not the entity that published them. ALT1 is good to go without concern from me. ~ Pbritti (talk) 16:25, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Nabataean Aramaic

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  • ... that the very earliest Nabataean Aramaic inscriptions already contain Arabic names and loanwords? Source: From the period of its earliest attestation, Nabataean Aramaic is notable for the use of Arabic or Ancient North Arabian loanwords and grammar, reflecting strong contact with these languages. [26]
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: The article refers to "Arabic or Ancient North Arabian", which is a matter of definition.

Improved to Good Article status by Benji man (talk). Self-nominated at 12:43, 13 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Nabataean Aramaic; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
  • Other problems:  N - Would like different wording
QPQ: None required.

Overall:   @Benji man: Good article. But the hook is confusingly worded in my opinion. Could you write it differently? Onegreatjoke (talk) 20:15, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, Onegreatjoke! How's this? Benji man (talk) 09:39, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
  I think that's better. Onegreatjoke (talk) 20:10, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 14

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Stanhope Demonstrator

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The device displayed at the Science Museum
The device displayed at the Science Museum

Created by Andrew Davidson (talk). Self-nominated at 16:00, 21 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Stanhope Demonstrator; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  •   New enough, hook in article and followed by citation to reference which requires subscription. No copyvio issues. Image is clear and free. Ping once expanded and added QPQ. @Andrew Davidson: thank you Whispyhistory (talk) 13:32, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
  • @Whispyhistory: Thanks for the quick review. I've done the QPQ but have no time for significant expansion right now. My priority currently is to crop the picture to focus more on the central display. Andrew🐉(talk) 21:33, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
  • I have already cropped the image and have no further plans for immediate expansion now. The article is already large enough for DYK and so we should press on. Andrew🐉(talk) 00:11, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
  •  .... QPQ provided, copyvio 0%, article long enough. AGF on much of text cited by references that require subscription. Image free and clear. Hook is interesting and length okay - it is in the article and followed by a citation to a good reference that contains hook fact. Thank you Whispyhistory (talk) 07:11, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Mandera Prison

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Improved to Good Article status by Johnson524 (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 20:55, 18 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Mandera Prison; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   I have given the article a minor copyedit, because it is simpler to just do it, rather than try to explain so many tiny issues to you. That will not affect DYK. Some issues:

  • In the 1983 attack section, please repeat the citation at the end of the intro sentence, and at the end of the blockquote. This is because the citation is offline, and the reader cannot tell where you got the speech from.
  Done Citation added.
Thank you, the quotation is now cited. Storye book (talk) 11:36, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
  • Re ALT0: the source has gone offline. Can you find an alternative source?
  Done I ran internet archive bot to revive make an archived version of the dead citation used, because I don't think there are anymore alternative sources for this part of the article without doing original research.
The citation for ALT0 - on this template and in the article - is offline for me in the UK. Please check and confirm that you can see it in the country where you are? If the citation is working for you, please put a quotation in the citation in the article and here, so that we can accept it. Storye book (talk) 11:36, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
The original citation is dead for me here in the US as well, but this archived version should work? Johnson524 (Talk!) 15:30, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
  • Re ALT1: the source mentions the British Empire colonial activity, but it does not say that Mandera was the main prison.
  Done Corrected the order of citations to clarify this information. Reference "Law" is the correct citation that provides this information, albeit not in a perfect match though, as it does not explicitly say Mandera was the main prison since it's founding, but is heavily implied. For that reason, I wouldn't use this alt if there are two others.
Citation 5 says that it was the central prison, which I understand to mean the main prison, so I have not struck out ALT1.. Storye book (talk) 11:36, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
I agree with that 👍 Johnson524 (Talk!) 15:30, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
  • Re ALT2: the source permits a preview of the first 20+ pages, but not of pages 57-59, so we must take this citation in good faith.
 Y Using the link to Google books, you should be able to preview the quote on page 58 after scrolling down. That's odd that page 58 specifically is locked for you.

So if you could please

  • (1) source the quotation and its introductory sentence, and
  • (2) find alternative sources for ALTs 0 and 1,

then all problems will be solved. (If you cannot find acceptable citations for ALTs 0 and 1, then we can accept just ALT2, in good faith.) Storye book (talk) 10:46, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

 
Inmates freed by the SNM,1983.
@Storye book: Thank you for taking this DYK review, I'll get to these issues later today 😁 Johnson524 (Talk!) 13:34, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
Thank you, Johnson524. Storye book (talk) 13:43, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
@Storye book: Ok everything should be addressed, but to be sure I ran down each point individually above. If anything else is needed let me know, cheers! Johnson524 (Talk!) 11:06, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
Thank you, Johnson524 for your extra work on the article. I am still not sure about ALTs 1 and 2, though due to your explanations I have not struck them out. I'll give it a green tick just for ALT2, though, as that one is the safest. Storye book (talk) 11:34, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
@Storye book: Thank you for you help! I responded to your two comments above just because, but I'm very happy that ALT2 got the green light. I will say, if a picture is needed, you could use this one I placed on the right, which is a photograph of some of the prisoners freed from the same prison break being discussed. It's not the most colorful photo, but could work for if having a picture is better than not having one. Johnson524 (Talk!) 15:30, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
  GTG with ALT 2 and image. Thank you, Johnson524. The image is free, and works fine as a thumbnail. I have shortened the caption. Storye book (talk) 11:34, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 15

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1978 Tabriz protests

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Created by Mhhossein (talk). Self-nominated at 19:05, 22 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/1978 Tabriz protests; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  •   Interesting article, new enough, long enough, within policy. Hook is also with policy. @Mhhossein: please could you bring a page number for the hook citation, and ideally a short quote to allow direct verification? You might also consider expanding the quote to point out the tragic irony of so many protestor deaths at event to protest deaths at a previous protest. Onceinawhile (talk) 12:45, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
    • Thanks for the review Onceinawhile. You can find the the hook at page 168 where it says "...14 persons were killed and 125 suffered bullet injuries." The hook says "at least" since the number of the dead are higher in other sources as mentioned in the main article. I liked your suggestion for expanding the hook; what about this one?
Alt1:... that at least 14 people were killed during the 1978 Tabriz protests which had meant to commemorate the dead in the 1978 Qom protests?
--Mhhossein talk 06:08, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
  Excellent thank you. FYI I added the word "had" into your ALT1 to make it perfect. Onceinawhile (talk) 07:31, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

First Telephone Exchange

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Created by Locomotive207 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:45, 20 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/First Telephone Exchange; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   @Locomotive207: Good article. Onegreatjoke (talk) 14:41, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

Team Jorge

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Created by Dynamo128 (talk) and Iskandar323 (talk). Nominated by Iskandar323 (talk) at 18:39, 20 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Team Jorge; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  New, long enough, within policy. Hook is interesting and well sourced (of course, the claim in it is dubious, but the hook makes it clear that it's a "boast", not a fact); IMHO the first hook is also the strongest of the three options. QPQ done, and no image to review. Jpatokal (talk) 05:15, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

Mets–Willets Point station (IRT Flushing Line)

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The Mets–Willets Point station

Improved to Good Article status by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 13:56, 15 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Mets–Willets Point station (IRT Flushing Line); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited:  N - just a concern
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   @Epicgenius: Good article. Though, the source for alt3 doesn't explicitly state that it opens on Mets games. Though, it does say game days and I'm not knowledgeable on baseball so maybe I'm wrong. Onegreatjoke (talk) 20:27, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

@Onegreatjoke: Thanks for the review. I have changed ALT3 to just "sports games" - to be honest, I think the platform in question might operate during the US Open as well. Epicgenius (talk) 21:44, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
  better. Onegreatjoke (talk) 21:45, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 16

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Open Arms (SZA song)

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Moved to mainspace by Your Power (talk). Self-nominated at 17:08, 16 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Open Arms (SZA song); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  N - maybe not

QPQ:  N - Not done
Overall:   @Your Power: Good article but I don't really think the hook is interesting. Could you propose another hook? Also need a QPQ. Onegreatjoke (talk) 19:05, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

@Onegreatjoke: Can I suggest one myself, in the meantime? Let me know if this could be OK.
ALT1b: ... that a song from SZA's 2022 album, SOS, pays tribute to her grandmother, who died from Alzheimer's disease during the LP's recording sessions? Oltrepier (talk) 15:38, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
I find that one too convoluted to be interesting. And @Onegreatjoke I agree the other ones aren't that eye-catching either, so here's one that's a little more narrative-heavy:
ALT2: ... that upon learning of her grandmother's death while creating an album, SZA memorialized her by having one of its tracks begin with her voice? ‍ ‍ Elias 🌊 ‍ ‍ 💬 "Will you call me?"
📝 "Will you hang me out to dry?" 16:54, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
For an ALT3, which I prefer the most because it's a little more outside-the-box compared to most song hooks: ... that a woman who died from Alzheimer's was memorialized by her granddaughter through posthumous vocals in a song? ‍ ‍ Elias 🌊 ‍ ‍ 💬 "Will you call me?"
📝 "Will you hang me out to dry?" 17:22, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
@Your Power: A QPQ is still needed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 16:09, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
Will get to this soon -Elias
I'd like to second the proposal for ALT3. It's pretty unusual and intriguing and isn't reliant on knowing SZA is. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:38, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
Thank you NHL ^^ And the QPQ is done ftr - @Onegreatjoke can we get an update on how this looks now? ‍ ‍ Elias 🌊 ‍ ‍ 💬 "Will you call me?"
📝 "Will you hang me out to dry?" 15:01, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
  A better hook. Onegreatjoke (talk) 20:48, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

1st Armoured Division (United Kingdom)

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1st Armoured Division rhinoceros insignia

Improved to Good Article status by EnigmaMcmxc (talk) and Baffle gab1978 (talk). Nominated by Bruxton (talk) at 19:27, 19 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/1st Armoured Division (United Kingdom); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   @Bruxton: Good article. Honestly, the first hook is not interesting to me but alt1 is good enough for me to approve in good faith. Onegreatjoke (talk) 20:17, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

  The figure should be 1,111. The source gives a table of casualties, which for the 1st Armoured Division says 90 officers and 1,021 other ranks were killed. I assume the article author misread the former number as 900. I have corrected this in the article. Sojourner in the earth (talk) 06:04, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
@Sojourner in the earth: I changed the hook, pinging @Onegreatjoke: to take a look about approving. I have no access to the source so I AGF. Bruxton (talk) 22:29, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
  Seems to be fine now. Onegreatjoke (talk) 15:09, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

An Introduction to the Three Volumes of Karl Marx's Capital

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  • ... that in Marxist scholar Michael Heinrich's book An Introduction to the Three Volumes of Karl Marx's Capital, he insists that all three volumes of Das Kapital need to be read to understand Marx? Source: "Heinrich insists throughout the text that a reading of Capital that does not include volumes 2 and 3 will lead necessarily to misinterpretation: 'What we believe to be understood after reading only the first volume is not only incomplete, but in fact distorted' (9)." https://doi.org/10.1080/08854300.2013.795263
    • ALT1: ... that when Michael Heinrich's book An Introduction to the Three Volumes of Karl Marx's Capital was published, Paul Cockshott claimed Heinrich removed the scientific method from Marx? "In a nutshell, my objection to Heinrich's interpretation is that, if we follow it, we end up with something that is no longer a scientific theory of capitalism, whereas a slightly different interpretation gives a strong and testable scientific theory." https://doi.org/10.1080/03017605.2013.805004 (posting the doi for proof of peer review-- non-paywalled link available here: https://marxismocritico.com/2016/05/24/new-age-marxism/)
    • ALT2: ... that in Michael Heinrich's book An Introduction to the Three Volumes of Karl Marx's Capital, he argues that Marx was not an economist? Within world view Marxism, Marx had taken over key categories, if not the whole, of the labour theory of value from classical political economists like Adam Smith and David Ricardo, and added to that an explanation of exploitation and the crisis-prone nature of capitalism. Thus, according to this view, 'there are no fundamental categorical differences between Marxist political economy and classical political economy, only differences concerning the conclusions of both theories' (p 33). According to the 'new reading of Marx' that Heinrich subscribes to, this is a faulty understanding of what Marx was attempting to do in Capital. This is highlighted by the subtitle of the book: 'A Critique of Political Economy.' Marx was not trying to provide an alternative political economy, but wanted to 'criticize the categorical presuppositions' of political economy. This is the key difference and can be emphasised by noting that Marx was not 'predominantly criticizing the conclusions of political economy, but rather the manner in which it poses questions' (p 34)" pages 26-7 of https://www.jstor.org/stable/24482457
    • ALT3: ... that in Marxist scholar Michael Heinrich's book An Introduction to the Three Volumes of Karl Marx's Capital, he claims to solve the transformation problem? "Heinrich's claim is ultimately that Marx's labour theory of value is a monetary theory of value: 'without the value form, commodities cannot be related to one another as values, and only with the money form does an adequate form of value exist' (63–4). It is a compelling reading, and one with which Heinrich can also sidestep the infamous 'Transformation Problem' that plagued Capital's reception since its first printing. He essentially calls the entire problem a category error: he insists there is no point trying to derive production prices from values, because value and price are 'different levels of description' (149), mediated by different forms of exchange."
    • ALT4: that according to Michael Heinrich's book An Introduction to the Three Volumes of Karl Marx's Capital, Marx opposed the labor theory of value? Source is same quote as ALT2 and supplemented directly from Heinrich: "Marx's value theory is a monetary theory of value...However, within traditional Marxism, a non-monetary theory of value was dominant..." (page 165 of the book)
    • Reviewed:

Created by Freedom4U (talk). Self-nominated at 08:08, 20 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/An Introduction to the Three Volumes of Karl Marx's Capital; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  • I will be reviewing this. WJ94 (talk) 11:37, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited:  Y - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting:  N - I'm not sure the hook is catchy - I don't think its surprising to a general reader that someone would think that you need to read an entire work in order to understand it (even acknowledging that this is not often done for Capital).
QPQ: None required.

Overall:   Article is long enough, new enough, neutral, and well sourced - I think you've done a good job with this article. If you could find a more interesting hook (does Heinrich have an unusual take on Marx, or an intriguing comment from one of the book's reviewers?) that'd really help. WJ94 (talk) 12:06, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

  • @WJ94: You just challenged an unchallenged view I've had which was that most people who read Capital Volume 1 don't read Volumes 2 or 3, and maybe it doesn't have as much basis as I thought. I've added an alternative DYK which talks about Cockshott claiming Heinrich's interpretation made Marx unscientific. Also made it so that the citations pointed out exactly what belonged to what. Freedom4U (talk) 12:25, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
  • @Freedom4U: Thanks for that. My point was not so much that most people do read volumes 2 and 3, but more than for a general audience who might be unfamiliar with Marx, it is perhaps not surprising that a commentator on Marx advocates reading all three volumes. I have some reservations with ALT1 - specifically, I'm a little nervous about using a negative comment about the work where the source is the person who made that comment. I think we'd be on safer ground with a hook based on one of Heinrich's claims in the book. There might be something in the critique of worldview Marxism, or the idea of critiquing both Marxism and bourgeois readings of Marx? WJ94 (talk) 12:41, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
  • @WJ94: Thanks for your critique. Your comment about it being for a "general audience" got me thinking and I've added three more alternatives. Yeah, was iffy about the Cockshott one too-- what he's trying to say is that Heinrich's interpretation of Marx can't be "empirically proven" or something along those lines. Freedom4U (talk) 13:09, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
  • @Freedom4U: Great, thanks for those alternatives. I think ALT3 probably requires too much contextual knowledge for the general reader, but I like the other two. I have slightly modified ALT2 to remove the final clause (which I think reduces the clarity of an otherwise good hook) - I hope you don't mind. But I am happy to   approve ALT2 and ALT4. WJ94 (talk) 13:26, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Williamsburg Bray School

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The Williamsburg Bray School being moved, 10 February 2023

5x expanded by Pbritti (talk). Self-nominated at 22:37, 16 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Williamsburg Bray School; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   @Pbritti: Good expansion but earwig does seem to show some slight similarities to one of the sources. It isn't major but I would like some rewording to better reduce the percentage. Onegreatjoke (talk) 19:44, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

  • @Onegreatjoke: I know this is annoying but Earwig has been 504ing for me not matter what I do for the last couple days. Could you send the offending phrase for me to correct? ~ Pbritti (talk) 20:48, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
  • Note: Earwig is working for me now, so I'll go through and work to reduce the percentage (most seem to be false positives on names of entities like "Associates of Dr. Bray" and "military science department", so anticipate me only lowering it to ~15%.) ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:08, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
  • @Onegreatjoke: Ok, I have tried to knock down the percentage a bit but the overlap remains high due to organizational and personal names. If you think there are any remaining suspect phrases, please let me know; I'll happy rework them. ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:23, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
  Doesn't look like a problem anymore. Onegreatjoke (talk) 18:16, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
Note: Following a private, off-wiki message from the individual described in the first hook, he informed me that he was not in fact motivated by poetry in his search for 19th-century Williamsburg. Out of an abundance of caution, I have struck this first hook and offer the two ALTs as already approved. ~ Pbritti (talk) 20:50, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 17

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Mirtha Arce

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Improved to Good Article status by Krisgabwoosh (talk). Self-nominated at 07:35, 23 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Mirtha Arce; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  • @Krisgabwoosh: I don't really love the idea of running a hook for which you could easily swap in six other names without breaking the hook at all. Is there a more uniquely "her" hook that could be found? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 09:34, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
    I saw this "Of the candidates contesting the governorship in Tarija, Arce stood out as the only woman,[27] making her the first woman to do so in the department's electoral history," which could make for a good hook. Onegreatjoke (talk) 14:30, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
    @Theleekycauldron and Onegreatjoke: How do we feel about tacking on "and was the first in the Tarija Department to ever do so" at the end? Keeps the original factoid while adding another more personal to her. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 16:40, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
    @Krisgabwoosh: Sure if you feel like it. Onegreatjoke (talk) 16:32, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
    @Krisgabwoosh: works for me; striking ALT0, feel free to propose that as an ALT1 and tag with {{DYK?again}} in waiting for a full review :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 22:17, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

  ALT1 ... that out of 84 total candidates, Mirtha Arce was one of just seven women running for governor in all of Bolivia in 2021 and was the first in the Tarija Department to ever do so? Krisgabwoosh (talk) 22:21, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Review to come.   Made some copyedits while reading. New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well cited (en español). Sources support ALT1, though could be massaged slightly:
  • ALT1a ... that out of 84 people running for governor seats in Bolivia in 2021, Mirtha Arce was one of just seven women and was the first in the Tarija Department to ever do so?
And QPQ done. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 19:43, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Brightwell Manor

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Brightwell Manor from the village churchyard in 2008

Created by Edwardx (talk), KJP1 (talk), and Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Edwardx (talk) at 23:20, 24 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Brightwell Manor; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   @Edwardx: Nominated a little late but I'm fine with that – long enough, although just barely, neutral and sourced. Doesn't appear to be a copyvio and the pic is nice and meets the criteria. QPQ done. The only issue is that the hook needs to be sourced in the article (the sentence His wife wrote in her diary "It is a most attractive house but rather small." and that she had written to Paul Edward Paget and his partner John Seely (later John Seely, 2nd Baron Mottistone) about adding to it needs a reference) – and could you show me which source says that? Thanks. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:54, 24 February 2023 (UTC) BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:54, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

  • Thank you, BeanieFan11. If you search Google Books for "Brightwell Manor most attractive house but rather small" it will come up. It is on p236 of Adam Fox's 1960 book about Inge. But, I'm struggling to add the ref correctly to the article itself, such that you can click through to it from there. Edwardx (talk) 00:03, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
I see now. Also, I've added the ref for that sentence, as the DYK rules require, so now it appears to be good to go!   BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:06, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
It doesn't seem like google books gives many people access to that book, only through the snipping view. So I don't think there's a way you could add it allowing people to read it. BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:09, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
BeanieFan11, it only gives me a snipping view too, but it is enough to show the salient fact in support of the hook. Edwardx (talk) 00:16, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
I gave the hook a tweak. Philafrenzy (talk) 17:37, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
The original hook is making a small joke that only works in the top spot, but really the content of the hook isn't weighty enough to support that position. We should also attribute the words properly to the author, Mary Inge, or be accused of sexism. What about:
ALT1 ... that Brightwell Manor (pictured) was the home of a eugenicist clergyman who did not believe in democracy, or women's rights? Article would need expanding in this respect.
ALT2 ... that Boris Johnson has agreed to buy Brightwell Manor (pictured) which was once in the ownership of a eugenicist clergyman who did not believe in democracy, or women's rights? Philafrenzy (talk) 18:51, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

2019 renaming of South African National Defence Force reserve units

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Created by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 13:16, 17 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/2019 renaming of South African National Defence Force reserve units; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  • Reviewing... new enough, long enough, hook in article. Will complete soon. Whispyhistory (talk) 13:06, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
     ... No copyvio issues, hook in article and followed by citation to reference containing hook fact. Some references could have some further details added eg chapters and check isbns etc. Interesting article and happy to review to any further hooks. QPQ provided. Thanks. Whispyhistory (talk) 00:29, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Educationally Subnormal

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  • ... that girls at a school for children deemed "educationally subnormal" were given far less freedom than boys in order to prevent "sexual misbehaviour"? Source: Günzburg, H. C. (October 1950). "The Significance of Various Aspects in Drawings by Educationally Subnormal Children". Journal of Mental Science. 96 (405): 951–975. doi:10.1192/bjp.96.405.951. ISSN 0368-315X.
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Created by Llewee (talk). Self-nominated at 19:57, 19 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Educationally Subnormal; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  •   AGF on the hook citation, it is interesting. The article is neutral and uses the correct inline citations. I was able to spot check several references and confirm them. Article was started and nominated within the timeframe and has 6270 characters which makes it long enough. I am sure there are many other hooks which we could find in the article if this one is deemed too risqué. I found it interesting enough to read the article. I did not find copyright issues and the copyvio detector does not alert to any violations. This is the nominator's third nomination so no QPQ is needed. Bruxton (talk) 15:30, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Manga Up!

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Created by Link20XX (talk). Self-nominated at 00:09, 18 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Manga Up!; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited:  N - See below.
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   Article created on 17 February, and meets the length requirement. Earwig reveals no copyvio and I didn't spot any instances of unacceptably WP:Close paraphrasing. All sources are, as far as I can tell, reliable for the material they are cited for (but see below). QPQ has been done. There are some content issues:

  • The article describes it as a website, but the sources say it's an app.
  • However, the service was criticized for its censorship and monetization. – "however"?
  • Fullmetal Alchemist, Magical Circle Guru Guru, Inu × Boku SS, Blast of Tempest, Daily Lives of High School Boys, and Sumomomo, Momomo were available on the service upon release. – that's basically just a laundry list.
  • An English version – I would say "English-language" for clarity.
  • launched on July 26, 2022 – the source says it was released "on Monday". July 26, 2022 was a Tuesday.
  • serializes original series – redundant phrasing.
  • Japanese website Appmedia praised the works and free content of the app, particularly its fantasy and horror works. – did it? I'm admittedly relying on a machine translation, but it seems more like description than praise to me.
  • many outlets criticized its censorship – the cited sources don't back this up. They do back up that many users criticized it.
  • many critics pointed out that the censorship included knees and jeans – the sourcing does not back up that many critics said this, specifically.
  • knees and jeans – "knees" is properly sourced, but "jeans" is not. The cited sources do not discuss the censorship of jeans, but one of them includes this tweet. That tweet would not be sufficient sourcing on its own, and being included in one of the cited sources without further commentary does not change that.
  • neither of which are erotic – that's an opinion.
  • I would include Faulkner's assessment that the censorship was probably done by machine.
  • entire chapters that were mostly censored – not really what Faulkner says. Faulkner says characters that show cleavage, like Marin from the top-rated My Dress Up Darling series, can spend entire chapters mostly obscured, a weaker statement.

Ping Link20XX. TompaDompa (talk) 18:48, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

  • @TompaDompa: Thanks for your review. I changed the description in the first sentence from website to service as that better describes the topic, I removed "however" and the redundant word "original" and added "English-language" as you suggested. I also removed the laundry list of titles and changed the release date to July 25, 2022 (the proper date). I removed the note about Appmedia as it did not praise the service for that particularly, though the rest of the statement should be okay. I also changed "outlets" to "users" to better match the sources and removed "many" for the same reason. I removed the line about knees and jeans being errotic and and changed the bit about Falkner's opinion, toning it down and noting his machine assessment. Lastly, regarding the censorship, I changed "knees and jeans" to "knees and elbows" as I can't verify jeans outside of the Tweet, though elbows is mentioned in the ComicBook.com article here, which states However, these boxes are also present on bodies even if they're totally covered, and some even cover unexpected areas like elbows and knees. As such, I would like to propose an alternative hook similar to the one above, ALT1: ... that censorship on Manga Up! included elbows and knees? based on the change. Link20XX (talk) 19:30, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
    •   @Link20XX: I'll have to WP:AGF on Appmedia (is it really praise and not just a description?), and Faulkner says that characters rather than chapters are mostly obscured. Other than that, my sourcing concerns have all been taken care of, and no obvious neutrality issues remain. ALT1 is both interesting and properly sourced. This will be ready once the Faulkner stuff is fixed. As a further improvement, I would suggest saying "monetization model" rather than just "monetization" in the WP:LEAD. TompaDompa (talk) 16:26, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
      • @TompaDompa: I have made all of the suggested edits. Link20XX (talk) 16:45, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
        •   ALT1 ready. TompaDompa (talk) 16:48, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
            @Link20XX and TompaDompa: I don't think "censorship included" is grammatically correct on its own. It's like you're missing some words, e.g. "targets of censorship included..." Cielquiparle (talk) 15:52, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
          Can't say I see a problem. "Was there censorship? Yes, including elbows and knees." seems fine to me, as would "[...] including of elbows and knees." I wouldn't object to rephrasing it, but I don't think it's necessary either. TompaDompa (talk) 17:26, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Bob Scrabis (basketball)

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Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self-nominated at 19:17, 17 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Bob Scrabis (basketball); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  •   AGF on the rebound hook. The article is new and long enough. The QPQ is done. The article has the correct inline citations and it appears to be free of copyright violations. (the detector is down). Well written and sourced article. Bruxton (talk) 22:44, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
I guess that works because Time magazine called Princeton cinderella. i will leave it up to the promotor. Just an additional note: in the future do not red x the nomination. I removed it. Bruxton (talk) 22:33, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
User:Bruxton It is better explained in the WP:IC in his article. It is more because Princeton saved the cinderella seeds from being eliminated from future tournaments. The reason I think it is better because the WP:RS is online.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:54, 19 February 2023 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on February 18

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Alexandra Hunt

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Created by Muboshgu (talk). Self-nominated at 20:23, 18 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Alexandra Hunt; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.


I like the article and the hook, it satisfies the length, originality and hook format and content criteria. Just two comments

  1. The article reads a bit like an ad with sentences like "She has been open about her experience"? What were the reasons she lost the nomination?
  2. Did she grow in the inner city of Rochester or Philadelphia?

Alaexis¿question? 21:14, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

    • I can rewrite that sentence. She grew up in Rochester. Why did she lose? Because she was an underfunded challenger and incumbents in the U.S. House have crazy high rates of reelection. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:51, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
Thanks! In that case probably we don't need to explain that in the article.
I've asked where she grew up because the Inquirer calls her a "Philadelphia native," maybe you can double check that?
Btw apologies for not leaving a message at your talk page after reviewing the nomination. Alaexis¿question? 22:18, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
@Alaexis:, as all of the other sources say that she was raised in Rochester, I take that line in the Inquirer to be in error. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:01, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
  In that case I see no issues with the nomination. Thank you for your work on the article! Alaexis¿question? 17:58, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

Tobi Oluwayemi

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  • ... that both Tobi Oluwayemi and his older brother Josh are goalkeepers that played for Tottenham's youth academy? Source: [28] "Oluwayemi is born and raised in London and has dual English and Nigerian nationality, with his elder brother Josh — also as a goalkeeper — still part of Tottenham’s academy set-up, now with the under-23s."
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Henri Hekking
    • Comment: This is my fourth nomination, if I remember well, but I still wanted to include a QPQ this time: that review is basically completed, although I'm still waiting for someone to give the final green light. On a side note, the source I've included here needs registration: in alternative, here's another useful link that justifies the same hook.

Moved to mainspace by Oltrepier (talk). Self-nominated at 16:04, 20 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Tobi Oluwayemi; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  • Review: Looks good. Article is long enough, well sourced, no copyvio issues, and was nominated within the appropriate timeframe. I'd change the hook slightly to be "are goalkeepers that played". Other than that, g2g  . Anarchyte (talk) 04:01, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
@Anarchyte: You're definitely right. Thank you for chipping in! Oltrepier (talk) 13:08, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

Carrbridge Packhorse Bridge

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Carrbridge Packhorse Bridge in winter

Created by Bruxton (talk). Self-nominated at 21:27, 18 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Carrbridge Packhorse Bridge; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   Interesting article. I see many images which can be used as well. I think both hooks look good! Lightburst (talk) 02:35, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 19

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Tolkien's sentience dilemma

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Improved to Good Article status by Chiswick Chap (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 21:48, 24 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Tolkien's sentience dilemma; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited:  N - It's a bit difficult to tell if it meets the placement criterion, since this is basically the entire premise of the article.
  • Interesting:  N - See below.
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   The article was promoted to WP:Good article status on 19 February, and is well beyond the required minimum length. All sources but one are, as far as I can tell, reliable for the material they are cited for, and spotchecking them reveals no obvious disqualifying issues. Earwig reveals no copyvio and I didn't spot any instances of unacceptably WP:Close paraphrasing. There are no obvious neutrality issues. QPQ has been done. However, I don't think the hook is particularly interesting. I don't think most readers would be enticed to click on the link to find out more, I think they would simply go "I don't understand what that means" and move on. Some comments on the content:

  • I have added a couple of links.
  • The first sentence—Tolkien's sentience dilemma is that he created Middle-earth peoples who were both clearly sentient and open to morality, like Men, who in Tolkien's Christian framework must therefore have souls, or be non-sentient and without any moral sense, like ordinary animals.—is very difficult to parse.
  • including Elves, Dwarves, Hobbits, Orcs, Trolls, Ents, and Eagles, among others – "including [...] among others" is redundant.
  • didn't – MOS:CONTRACTION.
  • I fail to see what Stuart, p. 46 verifies. Was a different page intended?
  • The critic Gregory Hartley treats Wargs as "personified animals", along with the sentient eagles, giant spiders, Smaug the dragon, ravens and thrushes. – Hartley says The animals examined so far—the dragon, the spiders, and the eagles—have all, to one extent or another, been anthropomorphized. By being given human speech, intellect, and will, they have become more than merely animals. and makes a point to distinguish between personification and anthropomorphization.
  • The stuff about the Wargs could be clarified quite a bit. Hartley says that Much may be made of the illusion of sentience created by the Wargs who partner with the goblins. and The Wargs never speak the language of humans; they do not act independently; they do not possess autonomous wills or build civilizations. Instead they behave like animals. [...] The Wargs' behavior, while described using the words of human activity, never transcends the bestial.
  • had entered the Eä – should probably be glossed. I also don't think Eä usually takes the definite article.
  • Orcs are East Elves (Avari) – surely it would make more sense to link to Sundering of the Elves rather than Elves in Middle-earth?
  • I don't think http://greenbooks.theonering.net/ is a WP:Reliable source. It seems to be a fansite. Part of the sentence can be sourced to Tally (p. 19).
  • if they were fallen Elves or Maiar, then they certainly did, and valuing them as "other", to be killed without mercy, was straightforward racism – is this something Tolkien said, or does it come from sources analysing his works? It's not clear from reading the article which, and I think it makes a pretty big difference.
  • I would, for several of the sentences that currently only cite Tolkien directly, cite Tally as well. Page 18 contains a fair amount of discussion about the origins of Orcs, for instance.

Some of these issues do not strictly speaking relate to the WP:DYK criteria. That being said, I cannot in good conscience approve an article for the WP:Main page with an initial sentence this confusing. Ping DYK nominator Onegreatjoke and GA nominator Chiswick Chap. TompaDompa (talk) 21:56, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Well, you are right that those comments go well beyond DYK review, and that a better hook is needed. I'll tweak the first sentence. Chiswick Chap (talk) 03:34, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
I guess I'd better suggest a hook:
*Alt1: ... that Tolkien was not sure if Orcs were made of slime or corrupted Elves? Sources:J. R. R. Tolkien The Silmarillion: ch. 10 "Of the Sindar"; J. R. R. Tolkien Book of Lost Tales II: "The Fall of Gondolin". Both quoted and cited in the article. Or Tom Shippey's The Road to Middle-earth p. 265 covers it.
TompaDompa: Oh, and by the way I've actioned the comments above, DYK and non-DYK. Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:42, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
  ALT1 ready. TompaDompa (talk) 05:50, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

Gloria Cameron

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Created by SusunW (talk). Self-nominated at 16:33, 19 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Gloria Cameron; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   New enough, long enough, well-sourced, no copyvio issues, interesting hook and article, QPQ done. I personally prefer ALT0. Riley1012 (talk) 03:06, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

Arleigh Burke-class destroyer

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Improved to Good Article status by Findingmoney100 (talk). Nominated by Bruxton (talk) at 20:40, 20 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Arleigh Burke-class destroyer; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  •   Overall: Article was promoted to GA on Feb 19th, AGF on paywalled source, QPQ done, article is neutral, well sourced, free of copyright violations, hook appears in the article with an in-line source. I'm not sure the hook is 'hooky' enough. I don't think a general reader would understand the importance of a ship being hardened against electromagnetic pulses. Is there a way to either expand the hook to show the significance, or is there another hook that could be used? Freedom4U (talk) 03:41, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
  • Comment: A few things regarding the article: The article quotes the GAO as saying "the new ships would be 'at best marginally effective'." It would make the article more clear to state that the GAO is specifically talking about the "now-shrunken radar" and not the ship as a whole. The quote "in a little tiny box" is actually "in a tiny little box." There's also two red links in the article. Freedom4U (talk) 03:41, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
@Freedom4U: I changed the sentence in the article as you have suggested above, and regarding the redlinks, there is not a rule prohibiting redlinks. The prohibition in the supplementaty guidelines pertains to redlinks in the hook. Wikipedia:Did you know/Supplementary guidelines#C1.
I liked the EMP hook and thought it would be an opportunity for readers to learn about electromagnetic pulses but I will propose another:
ALT1: ... that the Arleigh Burke-class destroyers are among the largest destroyers built in the United States? The Arleigh Burke- class ships are the U.S. Navy's only active destroyers and are among the largest and most powerful destroyers ever built Bruxton (talk) 04:46, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
@Bruxton: Sorry about the redlinks, that was my bad. New hook looks good. I've actually thought of something, which is changing the original hook to say electromagnetic bomb, I think that would convey the significance better. Freedom4U (talk) 04:54, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
Thanks! I had to stick to the language used in the reference for hook one. But if you can approve ALT1 please leave a green tick so the bots move this to approved section. Bruxton (talk) 16:33, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
pinging @Freedom4U: Bruxton (talk) 17:13, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
@Bruxton:   thanks for the ping

Native administration

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Created by Chipmunkdavis (talk). Self-nominated at 05:50, 19 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Native administration; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   Just a suggestion, as the hook seems to be spread around several sentences (it is cited in the "System" section so its alright already), I suggest adding citation at the end of every sentences mentioning the IDPs instead of just one at every paragraph. Other than that, its fine. Nyanardsan (talk) 09:57, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 20

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Rudaki

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Created by HistoryofIran (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 22:02, 24 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Rudaki; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   Both hooks look good from a technical point of view. My personal preference would be the first one - I always feel quotes should carry the citation with them, so if anyone feels the second is more interesting, then maybe it should be reworded slightly? @HistoryofIran and Onegreatjoke:, do you have any thoughts on this - or would you rather the first hook was used? Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 16:18, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Leo Sirota

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Leo Sirota (seated) with his student Fujita Haruko
  • ... that Leo Sirota (pictured) was called the "god of the piano" in Japan? Source: Yamamoto Takashi: Leo Sirota: The Pianist Who Loved Japan, p. 67
    • ALT1: ... that Leo Sirota's (pictured) endorsement of Yamaha pianos is considered pivotal in the brand's popularization? Source: Ibid., p. 67
    • ALT2: ... that Leo Sirota (pictured) was referenced in Tanizaki Jun'ichirō's novel The Makioka Sisters? Source: Beate Sirota Gordon: The Only Woman in the Room, p. 64
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Dave Peterson (ice hockey)
    • Comment: QPQ won't be coming until Thursday. Currently away from my home desktop PC and my tiny little fingers get worn out fast doing all this on a phone! Expansion and improvement not yet completed, but figured it was best to submit this DYK now before the window closed. Again, mobile phone not an ideal medium for a large-scale project like this. At the moment the article has been expanded just over 5x; by the time I'll be done, it may be as large as 10x. But that won't happen until at least this weekend. Until then… Done!

5x expanded by CurryTime7-24 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:21, 21 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Leo Sirota; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   Ping me once you have QPQ done and I'll pass this. Grnrchst (talk) 16:21, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

  • @Grnrchst: QPQ all set! Let me know if anything else needs to be fixed. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 00:20, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Antananarivo–Toamasina toll highway

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Created by Red-tailed hawk (talk). Self-nominated at 05:09, 20 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Antananarivo–Toamasina toll highway; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  •   Article new and long enough - I would shorten the hook as it repeats some information in the body verbatim, but not a disqualifier. Copyvio not detected, hook interesting. QPQ done, and hook verified in source cited + mentioned in article. The two sources linked above isn't inline cited to the hook fact in article, but the existing one does so no issue there. Good to go. Juxlos (talk) 08:59, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
    Just a quick comment, but the hook can be further shortened by converting the measurements into numerals. It's not that common to spell out compound fractions like that. Thus:
    ... that the completion of the Antananarivo–Toamasina toll highway will reduce typical travel time from Madagascar's capital to its largest port by between 5.5 and 7.5 hours?
    Imzadi 1979 → 17:33, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
    Works for me. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 23:01, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 21

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Sofie Dossi

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  • ... that people sometimes wonder whether the contortionist Sofie Dossi has a spine? Source: "So, how does she do it? Does Sofie Dossi even have a spine?! ... She and her spine (which, again, she most definitely has, people!) ..." ref 9 and "Remember when everyone on the internet was wondering whether or not Sofie Dossi had a spine?" ref 11 Also note how prominent in google autocomplete ​does sofie dossi have a spine​ is when you type just ​does s​

Converted from a redirect by Hameltion (talk). Self-nominated at 19:46, 27 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Sofie Dossi; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited:  N - ?
  • Interesting:  N - ?
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   Article was created February 21, and nominated within seven days. Length and sourcing are adequate. No plagiarism was detected. No images are used in the article. The QPQ requirement is complete. I have two minor concerns. The phrase, "When she discovered that she was innately as flexible as the performers in a Cirque du Soleil video", seems promotional and should be simplified. The wording "people sometimes wonder" in the hook, does not have the same meaning as "despite the common rumor", which appears in the article. A more similar wording is needed for verification. Overall the article is in decent condition and a welcome nomination for DYK. Flibirigit (talk) 23:32, 5 March 2023 (UTC) Flibirigit (talk) 23:32, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks @Flibirigit. Did some rewording. As for the hook, the sources definitely support "people sometimes wonder", but that sort of wording feels more hooky than traditionally encyclopedic, and I think the word "rumor" is a fair enough way to restate that. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 02:35, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
Actually might prefer "speculation" for the body, changed to that. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 02:39, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
I am aware of the above comments and will follow up later today or tomorrow. Flibirigit (talk) 16:52, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
  Improvements noted. ALT0 is hooky, mentioned in the article with different but similar enough wording to the hook, and verified by the sources. Nomination adheres to all other DYK criteria as per first review. Flibirigit (talk) 22:26, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
Thanks again for the review and helpful input. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 22:30, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

AMAN (naval exercise)

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Created by M.Ashraf333 (talk). Self-nominated at 14:15, 21 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/AMAN (naval exercise); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  N - See below
  • Other problems:  N - Grammar and focus issues; see below
QPQ: None required.

Overall:   My first review. This submission is new enough, it's long enough, it's got good citations as far as I can tell—everything here seems good except for two issues with the hook. One, while it's kind of interesting, it's drawn out and focuses on what I feel is the wrong thing; two, the grammar isn't that good. I would rewrite this along the lines of "... that the navies of more than 50 nations took part in AMAN-23, a naval exercise in Pakistan?". That seems good enough: it's interesting (seeing 50 nations in one exercise is pretty eye-opening) and it fixes the grammar and focus issues. AdoTang (talk) 03:19, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

@M.Ashraf333 It's been over a week; tagging to ask that we discuss this.
Having read the guide, I've added my own ALT2 that's shorter and fixes the grammar issues. If you're okay with that one, let me know.
Also asking for a third opinion from anyone scrolling by, because this is my first review and I'm not sure if I'm doing everything right. AdoTang (talk) 12:41, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
@AdoTang, Thank you very much for your effort. Your ALT2 is good but it looks much less so in my recommendation, it would be better to use "... that the navies of more than 50 nations took part in AMAN-23, a naval exercise in Pakistan?" what you suggested in you last comment. M.Ashraf333 (talk)
Yeah, that works fine. So, if we've agreed on that, it should mean the issue is fixed, right? We should be good to go. AdoTang (talk) 14:13, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
Done. M.Ashraf333 (talk)
  Okay. Seems good as far as I can tell. Just did some minor-ish cleanup I don't really want to bother you about, and added an image because the original one wasn't of AMAN. Hope this doesn't cause any issues; it was good regardless. Otherwise, this should be ready for DYK. AdoTang (talk) 01:51, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Hard Rock (exercise)

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  • ... that in 1982 Hard Rock might have "killed" 12.5 million people in the United Kingdom? Source: "Hard Rock's attack was much smaller, only 50 megatonnes. Even so, Scientists Against Nuclear Arms (SANA), which developed the CND's computer model, says this attack will kill 12 1/2 million people" from:New Scientist (in English). Reed Business Information. 30 September 1982. p. 894.
    • ALT1: ... that in 1982 the British Hard Rock civil defence exercise was cancelled when twenty local authorities refused to participate? Source: "'Hard Rock' ... had to be cancelled when it became clear that twenty NFZ county councils were refusing to participate" from:Byrne, Paul (1988). The Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament (in English). Croom Helm. p. 165. ISBN 978-0-7099-3260-4.
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Al-Adid
    • Comment: ALT0 a bit of an attempt at a quirky hook, killed in quotations as obviously it was only a forecast.

Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 08:19, 21 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Hard Rock (exercise); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  • Comment: ALT0 seems very disingenuous, not just because nobody actually died (could would be better than might) but because the deaths were a projection based on the exercise, not deaths that would have been caused by the exercise had it gone ahead, which is how I read it initially. _MB190417_ (talk) 11:32, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
  ALT1 checks out and appears in the article - I do not think it is terribly interesting but I may be wrong so approving it; the hook is cited. I was at first taken aback by the size of the map upon clicking the article. The article is both new enough and long enough. It has the correct inline citations and is neutral. The QPQ is done and the article appears to be free of copyright issues. I struck ALT0, approve ALT1. Bruxton (talk) 19:26, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
@Dumelow: I'm also concerned about the size of the map. I don't know what skin you're using, but in Vector 22 (which is currently the default for readers), the lead is compressed into a very narrow column of 3–5 words per line. You can see it through this link. MOS:IMAGESIZE says that even in exceptional circumstances, a lead image should not be more than 300px wide. I think it would be best to reduce the size of the map and suppress the label displays (with "label_size=0"), so that the labels will still show on mouse-over. Perhaps a list of targets could be included in the article as well. What do you think? Sojourner in the earth (talk) 20:25, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for the feedback Sojourner in the earth and Bruxton. I think the map is important as it demonstrates the unusual choice of targets for this exercise. I've moved it down to its own section so it doesn't squeeze any text. I can't reduce its size without losing the captions which I think are important in demonstrating how few major cities were targeted - Dumelow (talk) 07:53, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
Okay, that works for me. Thanks. Sojourner in the earth (talk) 15:30, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Unitized Group Ration

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Created by AdoTang (talk). Self-nominated at 01:55, 24 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Unitized Group Ration; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   The article is long, new and mostly cited. Earwig is picking up unavoidable similarities but it doesn't look like there is any actual copyvio. There are a few sections that need refs: The last sentence in "History", the second paragraph in "Menu options", and the second paragraph in "Paragraph". Also, is there a ref for the list of menu options? I see a ref that has some but not all of them, so I'm guessing that it's spread out across multiple refs. Out of the hooks, ALT1 and ALT2 are the most interesting imo. BuySomeApples (talk) 09:10, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for checking this one out.
  • The last sentence in "History" doesn't have any sources because they never announced the UGR-B's rename. However, the UGR-M's page on the DLA website appears to have been written during the renaming process (but is undated AFAIK), so I think that'll work as proof.
  • The second paragraph in "Menu options" is just a reader notice that I didn't think needed to be cited. Operational Rations has a different menu from present day menus, and it lists different menus from different years, so it might work there.
  • By "Paragraph", I assume you mean the line about surplus sales under "Production"? Yeah, I reread the source and I must've read it wrong; I'll rewrite it.
  • Menu references are the menu table PDFs found on the DLA's website (except the UGR-H&S, which has its menu on the DLA page itself); they're all in the first paragraph of the section. I didn't want to cite each individual PDF seeing they're available on their respective pages, but I can if I have to.
Tried fixing these to a passable degree, let me know what you think. AdoTang (talk) 20:39, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
@AdoTang: Thank you for working on these! The main thing we want to avoid is WP:OR or WP:SYNTH, so I think if a source doesn't say something in its own words, we shouldn't say it in wikivoice.
The renaming should be left off since there isn't a specific source for it.
The paragraph in "Menu options" should be trimmed down to something like a sentence about how the menu has changed over the years with the source you mention.
The menu tables are fine as is since the info is cited in the main text.
Once these are done this nom should be ready. BuySomeApples (talk) 01:49, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
Changes have been made. Should be good to go.
If this goes through, choose whichever hook you fancy. I like the main hook the most, though ALT1 and ALT2 are also pretty good, and if I had to pick between those two I'd choose ALT2. ALT3 is meh IMO, and I just put it down for the hell of it. AdoTang (talk) 18:49, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
@AdoTang: Thanks! There are just a couple tweaks left:
"The UGR-B was renamed to the UGR-M at an unspecified date." This source doesn't say that, it says that UGR-B was phased out and replaced with UGR-M.
"UGR menus tend to change foods, options, or suppliers, with changes typically made every year or so." This should probably be changed to something along the lines of "UGR menus are continuously modified to improve their variety, nutrition and efficiency" which is more similar to what the source says.
I struck ALT3 and am ready to approve the rest once these changes are made. BuySomeApples (talk) 07:21, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
Done. Should hopefully be good to go now. AdoTang (talk) 12:00, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
  I think this nom is ready now, approving ALT0, ALT1 and ALT2. BuySomeApples (talk) 06:19, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Bayfront MRT station

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Improved to Good Article status by ZKang123 (talk). Nominated by Brachy0008 (talk) at 11:03, 21 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Bayfront MRT station; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  •   @Brachy0008:. Regarding the hook, you have a link to a primary source which only mentions "local artists". It seems they feature more art than the art of children so the hook does not work. In the article the line "The work depicts a series of ships hand-drawn by Singaporean children aged 7 to 12." has an inline citation which does not support the sentence. I will review in hopes you can present hook alternatives. Maybe a hook from this interesting line about children's art: "Based on fantasy or other existing ships, the designs included boats powered by whales and dragons, or those made of food and recycled bottles" I cannot access the inline citation which follows that sentence so you might want to share a blurb of the text when citing the hook. Another sentence in this article is not supported by the reference which follows, "When the Ships Comes In by Lee Wen is displayed along the station concourse as part of the Art-in-Transit programme, a showcase of public artworks on the MRT network". Article was recently promoted to GA and it is long enough so it is eligible. I have already mentioned the hook. The QPQ is not needed. The article is neutral and the copyvio detector does not alert to violations. The article has the correct inline citations but they need to be checked because two that I spot checked are completely incorrect. In my opinion this should not be a GA article in the state that it is in, also you were the reviewer not the one who improved it so the one who improved it should be listed above. I have similar concerns about another article which you have approved for GA titled: Gardens by the Bay MRT station. I started to nominate it and then saw that it was not up to GA standards. You have 611 total edits so perhaps slow down with approving GAs? Bruxton (talk) 17:35, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Can you let me know about the two sources that are completely incorrect. Also, thanks for the advice. It’s for the better for me to focus on improving articles. Brachy08 (Never Gonna Give You Up, Never Gonna Let You Down) 23:27, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Bruxton here are the pages from the book source for your reference: [34] [35] [36] ZKang123 (talk) 10:40, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

@Brachy0008: Thanks for your quick reply. Start with the hook, look at the provided reference. It is the same one as in the article and it does not support the information in the hook. I have removed the reference for the sentence in the article: "The work depicts a series of ships hand-drawn by Singaporean children aged 7 to 12". The inline citation was incorrect but the Zhang reference is correct and is now in place with the correct page number 175. I also rewrote another sentence in the section for accuracy. It now reads: "The When the Ships Comes In display pays tribute to the importance of Singapore as a port of call. The children's artwork recalls the history and projects the children's hope for the future". I will propose a new hook here:
ALT1: ... that the Bayfront MRT station in Singapore has public art which features crayon and colored pencil drawings of ships; some powered by whales and dragons? source: Zhuang, Justin (2013). Art in transit: Circle Line MRT. Singapore: Land Transport Authority. ISBN 978-981-07-4982-8. OCLC 854958677 p.175
@ZKang123: want to approve ALT1?
Bruxton (talk) 15:27, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
@ZKang123: want to approve ALT1? Bruxton (talk) 02:08, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
@Bruxton: Sure! Brachy08 (Never Gonna Give You Up, Never Gonna Let You Down)
Go ahead.---ZKang123 (talk) 10:29, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
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Kasman Singodimedjo

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Created by Juxlos (talk). Self-nominated at 15:48, 21 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Kasman Singodimedjo; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  •   Verified that the article is long enough, that there are no plagiarism concerns through the Copyvios tool and spotchecking, and that the hook is sourced in the article. Cunard (talk) 09:15, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

Samuele Parlati

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  • ... that in February 2023, Italian footballer Samuele Parlati saved a penalty kick while playing in goal, after his team's goalkeeper had been sent off? Source: From Tuttosport (translated): "The unthinkable happened in [the match] between Giugliano and Monterosi. In the middle of injury time, around the 90th [minute], the hosts had the opportunity to equalize [the score] with a kick from the penalty spot. The curious fact was that Salvemini's shot was faced between the sticks by Parlati, [Monterosi's] midfielder, not [goalkeeper] Alia, [who had been] sent-off after causing the penalty. [Parlati] took off the outfield player's shirt and wore goalkeeper gloves as he tried to become the hero of the day for Monterosi. No sooner said than done. Salvemini [went for a] right-footed shot, [but] Parlati dived and blocked the ball, as the spectators couldn't believe [what they had just seen] and his team-mates burst out in joy. Parlati is just the last of many outfield players who went in goal as emergency back-ups."
    • ALT1: ... that in February 2023, Samuele Parlati became one of the few outfield footballers who managed to save a penalty kick while playing in goal? Source: From Tuttosport (translated): "Samuele Parlati is just the last outfield player in chronological order to have saved a penalty. [...] Raise your hand if you remember Fabio Bilica, a former Venezia player who, on 7 November 1999 [...], saved Shevchenko's penalty kick, although he then conceded a goal, following a tap-in by Orlandini. [...] 2004 saw Di Michele as a protagonist, as the forward went in goal in a match between Lecce and Udinese and saved a penalty by Vucinic. [...] In 2012, former Juventus player [Felipe Melo] was playing for Galatasaray when he managed to save a penalty kick by Turkdogan."
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jeff Wrana
    • Comment: This is my fifth nomination: I thought it would be a fun and quirky entry, and I highly appreciate whoever will help me adjust the hooks, if needed. I also address that my QPQ review is currently incomplete, as I'm still waiting for a reply by the nominator and/or other reviewers.

5x expanded by Oltrepier (talk). Self-nominated at 13:26, 21 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Samuele Parlati; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   @Oltrepier: Good article. AGF on italian sources. Onegreatjoke (talk) 15:38, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

@Onegreatjoke: Thank you for reviewing this! I can assure that is a reliable source, by the way. Also, which hook might look the most suitable? Oltrepier (talk) 16:14, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

Kin (The Last of Us)

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Production in Canmore, Alberta

Converted from a redirect by Rhain (talk). Self-nominated at 01:33, 21 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Kin (The Last of Us); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  •   This nom is good to go. The article is both new and long enough, and within policy. The hooks are all formatted properly and interesting. Personally I'd rank them ALT0, ALT2, ALT1, and ALT3. They're all sourced properly and suitable for the DYK section, although ALT3 might be a little too niche(?) or not interesting to a broad enough audience. (I personally am interested, because filmmaking, and thus set design, is cool to me, but idk if others would be intrigued). That being said, they're all good to go for DYK. QPQ is done, as well. Soulbust (talk) 08:38, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
  • Personally, I prefer ALT2 over ALT0, but both are good. Wracking 💬 05:53, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Battle of Cirta

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Improved to Good Article status by Gog the Mild (talk). Self-nominated at 23:03, 21 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Battle of Cirta; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  •   The archived version only has page 207 for me, but this just went through GA so I trust it. I would suggest one change to the hook: wikilink Syphax. Otherwise, looks good to me. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 23:26, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
Evening Cap'n, and thank you. It's an on line library, so you can "borrow" the book and read the whole thing if you want. But, yeah, you can trust it. The article will shortly be on its way to FAC, and you have possibly heard what the coordinators there are like about sourcing! Gog the Mild (talk) 23:53, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
Speaking of which CaptainEek, when might FAC expect to be graced again with one of your nominations? Gog the Mild (talk) 22:22, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
Gog the Mild, Well I was hoping to take Gallic Wars but it has way too much citation work :( I tried to take it to A but it just didn't work out. But I'm working on Capture of Columbia, which I think will be FA worthy! CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 22:43, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

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Kenny Williams (basketball, born 1972)

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Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self-nominated at 05:11, 25 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Kenny Williams (UIC basketball); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  •   Full review to follow, but I'm not really impressed by the hook. It's great that his number was retired and all, but from what I can tell as well as searching about it, the UIC Flames basketball program isn't really that well-known or successful. It also doesn't help that he's the third player to have his number retired; it would have been more intriguing had he been the first. Perhaps if his number was retired by a much more famous program, for example by Duke, maybe the hook would have worked better instead. Maybe a different angle can be proposed here? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:30, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
  • ALT that Kenny Williams was the first UIC Flames men's basketball player to score 2000 points?---TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:16, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
There's no need to move the actual DYK nom even when the article title changes. That would just further break things. As for the new ALT... eh, it's not great either. It's not uncommon for college or professional players to score thousands of points over their careers, especially if they have long ones. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:00, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
2000 is not so common. Sure List of NCAA Division I men's basketball career scoring leaders has a few people with 3000+, but 2000 is still a lot.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:21, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
That sounds much better. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:09, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
  •   Can an admin check if I added a second nominator correctly. I would also like a second opinion on whether anything needs to be done to address the page move.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:14, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
  Article meets DYK requirements and a QPQ has been done. ALT2 is the best choice here: the source is in Polish so AGF, but a translation does seem to confirm the information; it's also cited inline. To answer the question above: there's no need to do anything on the page move part. The article can stay where it is, but the title of this nomination page does not need to be changed. I will leave it to the promoter to address the credits part, but I think TonyTheTiger's mention needs to be changed to nominator instead of make? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:55, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
  •   still need an admin to look at the two issues above.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:29, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
    •   Restoring Narutolovehinata5's tick after properly adjusting this template's contents to reflect the article move, and confirming that the new DYKmake created by TonyTheTiger is properly constructed. An admin is not needed, just someone who is properly knowledgeable. All DYK templates should be adjusted after their article moves rather than hoping the promoter will catch the name change. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:11, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Live at Bush Hall

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Created by Anarchyte (talk). Self-nominated at 04:01, 22 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Live at Bush Hall; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  •   Verified that the article is long enough, that there are no plagiarism concerns through the Copyvios tool and spotchecking, and that the hook is sourced in the article. Cunard (talk) 05:59, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Tinder Fire

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2018 Tinder Fire

Improved to Good Article status by Vami IV (talk). Nominated by Bruxton (talk) at 20:25, 26 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Tinder Fire; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   @Vami IV: To be honest with you, Alt1 is not even remotely interesting as a hook but I like alt0 enough to approve. Onegreatjoke (talk) 23:12, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

Allegory of Peace (Jan Lievens)

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Allegory of Peace

Created by Bruxton (talk). Self-nominated at 02:39, 22 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Allegory of Peace (Jan Lievens); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
  • Other problems:  Y
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   Nice work. The article is new [ created on 22nd Feb 2023] and long enough [1535 characters (272 words)] for DYK. Sourced and with good Earwig score. Picture is interesting and also clear. IMO ALT0 is suitable. RV (talk) 03:10, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 23

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2022 Joe Biden speech in Warsaw

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Joe Biden speaking in 2022 at Warsaw's Royal Castle
  • Comment: i am conflicted over whether or not to include the actual nine words, as i feel that omitting them makes the hook feel very much like clickbait, but i also do not think 200 characters is enough to provide the proper context for the remark.
    also, i wasn't sure if the photo i provided shows up well enough at that small of a size, so i also used {{CSS image crop}} to see how a closer crop might look. i also tried the same for a different photo in the article. the results can be seen at right. i don't know which image would work best, but if you prefer one of the cropped ones, i can submit a request at the graphics lab.

Created by dying (talk). Self-nominated at 20:30, 2 March 2023 (UTC).

  •   @Dying: I think the hook is flawed - I like the 9 words part, but calling it a very powerful speech when none of the RS does is where I see an issue. Our article states that, "U.K. education minister Nadhim Zahawi called it a very powerful speech". A single bureaucrat. I request some additional hooks. The article has the correct inline citations and is neutral. It is both new and long enough and the QPQ is done. The copyright detector only alerts to direct quotes. The images are clear and in the public domain. Bruxton (talk) 23:51, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
  • More hooks? You got it:

ALT1 : ... that Biden's speech outlining the task for this generation was overshadowed by a nine-word comment that was apparently ad-libbed?
ALT2 : ... that nine apparently ad-libbed words in one of Biden's speeches in Europe garnered more press coverage than the rest of his trip combined and distracted from the message of the rest of his speech?
ALT3 : ... that at the Royal Castle in Warsaw, President Biden delivered a speech that included nine words of an apparent ad-lib, which distracted from his message?
I like ALT1 best. ALT3 is closest to the original. Radzy0 (talk) 04:00, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

good point, Bruxton. thanks for catching that. following theleekycauldron's summary of the standard regarding the use of quoted words on dyk, i added "described as" to alt0a below, since i assume calling the speech "very powerful" is neither negative nor unduly positive. (also, i think most people commenting on the speech had the same general idea as zahawi did, as the problem was that the nine apparently ad-libbed words were a bit too powerful.)

alt0a: ... that, near the end of a speech in Warsaw in 2022 described as "very powerful", Joe Biden (pictured) said nine apparently ad-libbed words that distracted from his message?

i had originally added the quoted words to give a quick description of the speech that the second part of the hook could then contrast, but now that i am reviewing the hook, i think the following alternative could also work.

alt0b: ... that, near the end of a speech in Warsaw in 2022 framing the war in Ukraine as a fight between autocracy and democracy, Joe Biden (pictured) said nine apparently ad-libbed words that distracted from his message?

additional source: https://archive.today/20230223184238/https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/mar/26/joe-biden-poland-speech-russia-ukraine-nato

currently, i think i prefer alt0b over alt0a, but it is 196 characters long, so alt0a is there in case alt0b's length seems unwarranted.
Radzy0, i also like your alt1, though have reworded it in alt1a below because "task of this generation" is actually a phrase that biden had used in the speech, and presumably should not be used in wikivoice. (i assume that, because of the way alt1a is worded, the hook fully attributes the phrase.) some of the words were also moved around to accommodate the "(pictured)" so that it would not follow a possessive, and "nine" is being spelt out to conform with mos:spell09. also, i don't think biden actually outlined the task in the speech, so i replaced "outlining" with "addressing", though i think "describing" could also be appropriate. (biden raised three points that could be interpreted as an outline for a plan of action, but the source from the guardian i cited with respect to this phrase interprets the "task of this generation" to be the last of the three, rather than all of the three.)

alt1a: ... that Joe Biden (pictured) delivered a speech addressing the "task of this generation" that was overshadowed by an apparently ad-libbed nine-word comment?

alt0b is actually pretty similar to the alt1x hooks, since the "task of this generation" that biden refers to is the fight against autocracy. also, i am not sure if a reader will understand, from the wording of alt1 or alt1a alone, that the nine-word comment was a part of the speech (rather than, e.g., a response made by someone else, or a follow-up comment by biden himself), so i have added an explanation in alt1b below.

alt1b: ... that Joe Biden (pictured) delivered a speech addressing the "task of this generation" that was overshadowed by a nine-word comment apparently ad-libbed near the end of his speech?

i agree with you that alt2 and alt3 are somewhat weaker than alt1, as i don't think they provide any information that the description of the nine-word comment could then contrast.
by the way, the alt0x hooks were worded to include "Warsaw" and "2022" to better conform with mos:egg, and because biden has made other notable speeches in warsaw, and other notable speeches in 2022. (a notable speech in warsaw biden made in 2023 also frames the war in ukraine as a fight between autocracy and democracy, though it does not use the words "task of this generation".) after reviewing alt1, i am now not sure if it is necessary to mention either the city or the year, so am open to workshopping any of the proposed hooks to either include or remove these details as appropriate. dying (talk) 08:17, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
  I tweaked ALT1a it comes up at 173 words characters and is succinct. Biden has been in polictcs for a half of a century and so the year is important. I think the city is equally important.
Alt1aa ... that in 2022 Joe Biden (pictured) delivered a speech in Warsaw addressing the "task of this generation" and it was overshadowed by an apparently ad-libbed nine-word comment?
Bruxton (talk) 23:45, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
I like ALT1aa best, so far. Radzy0 (talk) 15:59, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
alt1aa looks good. thanks, Bruxton and Radzy0. dying (talk) 00:17, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

London's Brilliant Parade

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Created by Beatleswhobeachboys (talk). Self-nominated at 03:04, 23 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/London's Brilliant Parade; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  •   Verified that the article is long enough, that there are no plagiarism concerns through the Copyvios tool and spotchecking, and that the hook is sourced in the article. Cunard (talk) 09:28, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
@Beatleswhobeachboys: I am unable to independently confirm the hook online. Because the reference is offline. Can you share the sentence from the offline source? Bruxton (talk) 16:08, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
OK it turns out I cited the wrong article by mistake. I have fixed it in the article and the DYK proposal. The quote in the article reads: "Costello has an almost touching faith in his audience to understand what he's on about in his music. With Brutal Youth, he figures his listeners will pick upon the fact that 'London's Brilliant Parade" is a tribute to and send-up of the Kinks, on which he plays dobro as Ray Davies did on "Lola."" Beatleswhobeachboys (talk) 18:07, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
I removed the stop. AGF on the hook source. Bruxton (talk) 16:50, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 24

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Bishopcroft

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Created by Bking64 (talk) and Pbritti (talk). Nominated by Pbritti (talk) at 16:27, 28 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Bishopcroft; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  • Article:
    • Created on February 24, 2023, nominated for DYK the same day. Y
    • The length checks, and its neutrally written. Y
  • Hook:
    • Truth be told, the hook caught my eye among the other nominations mainly for the opulent description of a bishop's residence. The description of the design in the article was fairly interesting to me. Y
    • No issues with the neutrality and the info checks. Y
  • QPQ: checks. Y

Looks good to me. --GDuwenHoller! 21:51, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

  • Note: the article wasn't submitted on the date of creation; I did submit it within the requisite window, though. Just a minor correction for logging purposes. ~ Pbritti (talk) 22:08, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Splatoon 3

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  • ... that Splatoon 3 became the fastest-selling video game of all time in Japan three days after launch? Source: [39] [40]
    • ALT1: ... that Splatoon 3 became the best-selling video game of 2022 in Japan one month after its release? Source: [41]
    • Reviewed:

Improved to Good Article status by Blaze Wolf (talk). Self-nominated at 17:51, 27 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Splatoon 3; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  •   Article is neutral, meets the required length, and is sufficiently referenced and free of copyvio. Promoted to GA on the same day as this nomination. Nominator is exempt from QPQ. Hooks are interesting enough and succinct, but I have some concerns. For ALT0: from what I can gather, the game didn't become the second-fastest selling game in Japan, it became number one and was surpassed two months later. This should be rephrased within the article: state that it became the fastest-selling and was later overtaken (maybe in a footnote). (I would also recommend replacing the possibly unreliable Forbes with an RS like GameSpot, VG247, or Nintendo Life.) Regarding ALT1: the article (and source) says this occurred after one month, not three. Once these issues are addressed, this should be good to go. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 00:53, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
    @Rhain: I don't know where I Got the "three months" from lol. I'd like to use ALT0 if I can, but if you don't know how I could reword it this is fine as well. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 02:03, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
      I just made the requested changes myself, so this is good to go. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 02:59, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
    @Rhain: Thanks! This was much quicker than the review for my other DYK for The Crew Motorfest. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 14:00, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Fujita Haruko

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Fujita (standing) with her teacher Leo Sirota

Created by CurryTime7-24 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:54, 24 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Fujita Haruko; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  •   New enough and just about long enough for DYK. Neutral, free of copyvio, and sourced for the most part, though there is one sentence at the end of the first paragraph that necessitates a citation. Both hooks are sourced, but I think I'm more partial towards ALT1 and would recommend using that one. Not too familiar with Japanese date formats but, based on other articles I'd recommend switching to dmy dates rather than the current mdy—but that won't bar this form passing. Overall, just need the one citation and the QPQ for this to be good to go. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 16:52, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
Japan actually uses MDY (or if you want to be technical, YMD in Japanese form), for what it's worth. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:35, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: Interesting. Looking at a lot of Japan articles, one would get the impression they use dmy. Perhaps I should notify their WikiProject. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 18:06, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
  • Just finished my QPQ. The one unsourced bit in this article was translated from Japanese Wikipedia. Unfortunately, no source is provided there either. I also can't find anything in the materials I have at hand. I can either put in a cn tag or remove that passage altogether. Let me know which you prefer. Thanks for reviewing! —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 00:44, 27 February 2023 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on February 25

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Jane Severance

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  • ... that all three of Jane Severance's books for young readers include lesbian characters, including her first book, the first picture book to include lesbian characters? Source: First book: Davis 2016: "In 1979, Severance wrote and published the first children's picture storybook featuring lesbian characters. Titled When Megan Went Away..." Second book: Miller 2022: "...explored in her [Severance's] second children's picture book about lesbian family life, Lots of Mommies (1983)". Third book: Crisp 2010: "The point of the mother in Ghost Pains was what her daughters were going through because of her alcoholism. Her being a lesbian was just incidental."

Converted from a redirect by Bobamnertiopsis (talk). Self-nominated at 18:21, 3 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Jane Severance; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  •   Article started off in mainspace as a redirect and then an article was worked on in userspace. Hook fact is interesting enough and supported by an offline inline citation. QPQ is done. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:32, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

O Emmanuel (album), J.J. Wright (composer)

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Created by Red-tailed hawk (talk). Self-nominated at 04:51, 25 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/O Emmanuel (album); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:36, 25 February 2023 (UTC)


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:36, 25 February 2023 (UTC) Awaiting reviews-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:59, 25 February 2023 (UTC

@TonyTheTiger: I've added my QPQs above. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 23:46, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
User:Red-tailed hawk please explain-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:23, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
@TonyTheTiger: I was asked to take a look here – Template:Did you know nominations/Amos (guitar) was a valid QPQ from Red-tailed hawk's initial review, but Concentricities doesn't seem like a valid QPQ submission. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 05:35, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
Yes. that is what my "????" above means.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:05, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
I've added another QPQ above. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 03:24, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
Are we good to go here, or is there anything else that need be addressed? — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 15:40, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Gangnam (Seoul)

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Teheran Valley in Gangnam

Created by Freedom4U (talk). Self-nominated at 04:54, 27 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Gangnam (Seoul); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  • for some reason the DYK tool bugged out while writing this and deleted my first two DYKs, I've re-added them now Freedom4U (talk) 04:56, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: None required.

Overall:   @Freedom4U: Good article. Though, should "The music video was filmed in the Gangnam District and featured the ASEM Tower and the Trade Tower. The 2015 action film Gangnam Blues followed the real estate development of the Gangnam area." be cited? other than that everything seems good. AGF on Korean sources. Onegreatjoke (talk) 20:45, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

  Approve. Onegreatjoke (talk) 18:14, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

LAPD Special Investigation Section

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Created by AdoTang (talk). Self-nominated at 00:06, 26 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/LAPD Special Investigation Section; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  • 4 is the strongest, but at the same time, I think the 5th one should be reworded for something better in terms of that gun. 4 meets all length and age (17K bytes at start; made 2-25), neutrality (not biased in any way), no negativity issues. 3 is really bland and probably the one I like the least. 2 is above that. 1 is really not a good hook. I think 4th is the strongest, but 5th could be improved to be the superior one. Lack of photos hurts the article in my opinion, but that's not a DYK requirement. I would, however, redo citation 1 to mark LAPD as publisher.  Mitch32(won't you be my neighbor?) 01:06, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
Hey. Sorry for not replying earlier.
  • What do you mean by "something better in terms of that gun"? Could you suggest a better hook for ALT5?
  • I did that LAPD publisher thing already. Not at the time you posted your review, but I still did it.
  • In replying, I added a link to the special forces page in ALT4, because I forgot to do that the first time around.
Also, if you have to pick, yeah, I'd agree ALT4 is pretty good. AdoTang (talk) 12:20, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
What I meant is that your source mentions the gun. It might be a better hook if you list the name of the gun in a such as form. Mitch32(won't you be my neighbor?) 14:25, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 26

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CFM International RISE

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Created by Taavi (talk). Self-nominated at 20:39, 28 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/CFM International RISE; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  •   New enough and long enough. The user is QPQ-exempt. No textual copyvio issues. Other sources note the unusual nature of the design in the present environment, and both hook facts check out. Looks good to me. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 01:17, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Killing of Richard Ward

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Created by Mhhossein (talk). Self-nominated at 06:15, 27 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Killing of Richard Ward; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   Thank you for this article, a story which needed to be told. I have carried out a quick copyedit of the article, for syntax and grammar, because it was quicker and easier to do that, than to explain each tiny issue and ask you to do it. No content has been changed. This does not affect DYK. Earwig finds a few short phrases in the source which match those in the article, but they are not worth re-phrasing. This nomination is good to go. Storye book (talk) 14:15, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Guslagie Malanda, Kayije Kagame, Alice Diop, Fabienne Kabou

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  • ... that 2022's Saint Omer, based on the murder trial of Fabienne Kabou, was the first feature film for director Alice Diop and actress Kayije Kagame, and only the second for actress Guslagie Malanda? Source: Kabou and Diop: "[Diop's] experiences sitting in that courtroom [of the Kabou trial] have morphed into 'Saint Omer', the documentarian's first venture into narrative features" NYT ("narrative feature film" is redundant and just meant to distinguish from her extensive documentary work). Kagame: "Kagame’s big-screen debut was a sensation" THR ("big-screen" is meant to distinguish from her short film projects). Malanda: "she had appeared in just one movie" THR (simple math!)
    • ALT1: ... that in 2022's Saint Omer, Guslagie Malanda plays a character based on convicted murderer Fabienne Kabou, while Kayije Kagame plays a stand-in for director Alice Diop? Source: "The film’s two main characters, and their real-life cognates, are Black women. Like Rama, Diop was born in France to a Senegalese family; like Laurence, Kabou was born and raised in Senegal and came to France to attend university" TNY. Malanda/Kabou: "Malanda plays Laurence Coly, an immigrant from Senegal who killed her 1-year-old daughter by leaving her overnight on a beach. Far from a stereotype, Laurence is based on a real woman, Fabienne Kabou" Cut. Kagame/Diop: "Rama is not autobiographical, Diop said, a point reiterated by Kagame, the actress who portrays her. 'Alice always had this cautionary warning before everything, saying, "Rama is not me"', Kagame said through an interpreter during a video call. Equally, Kagame added, 'Of course, I think any artist is always putting so much of themselves in their creation. Rama is her and yet it is not her so that we can all project ourselves in Rama'. Indeed, Diop said that Rama’s gaze did allow her to 'process lots of very deep personal things'" NYT Many sources not currently cited for redundancy's sake (like O) say "stand-in" or similar unqualified.
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sanaullah Bhat, Template:Did you know nominations/2012–2014 Salvadoran gang truce, Template:Did you know nominations/Foreign trade of medieval Novgorod, Template:Did you know nominations/Comparative hearing
    • Comment: My first multihook of this size

Created (Guslagie Malanda, Kayije Kagame, Fabienne Kabou) or 5x expanded (Alice Diop) by Hameltion (talk). Self-nominated at 00:54, 2 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Guslagie Malanda; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:23, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:23, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:23, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:23, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

  • The articles are all in the unlikely range (from 3.8% to 22.5%). Although there is nothing to stop the nomination, it would not be bad to lessen the similarity of Kabou and Diop, which are both over 20% similarity. No pressure, but it would be nice.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:38, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
  • Seems to be mostly quotations
  • The articles cover the major content issues for the various subjects. Diop and Kagame both have a number of redlinks. Are we expecting new articles for any of these subjects. If not, is there a rationale for the redlinks. -TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:22, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
  • Got a little redlink happy - removed one, but the rest are plausible (many already exist in other langs)
  The nomination passes all essential elements for all articles. I mentioned some minor issues above. I am imparitial between the hooks, but think it might be better to use the shorter one (ALT1).-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:34, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
  • Thanks for reviewing. FWIW, I much prefer ALT1 as well, it's much more lively, forgot to indicate that in nom. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 14:46, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

Roger Bonk

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Created by BeanieFan11 (talk). Self-nominated at 21:05, 28 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Roger Bonk; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y

QPQ:  N - Not done
Overall:   @BeanieFan11: Good article. Though, Earwig is showing some slight copyright and I'm wondering if you could maybe reduce it a bit. Waiting on a QPQ as well. Onegreatjoke (talk) 21:32, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

That was fast! I'll make a few changes soon and will get a qpq at some point. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:33, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
@Onegreatjoke: Reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/WDJT-TV as a QPQ and I changed the text a bit – let me know if you want it changed further. BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:37, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
  Looks good. Onegreatjoke (talk) 18:44, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Revolutionary Girl Utena

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  • ... that director Kunihiko Ikuhara created the anime series Revolutionary Girl Utena after becoming frustrated by his lack of creative control as a director of the anime series Sailor Moon? Source: "The Power to Revolutionize the World, or Absolute Gender Apocalypse?: Queering the New Fairy-Tale Feminine in Revolutionary Girl Utena"
    • ALT1: ... that Tomoko Kawakami, who voiced the title role in the anime series Revolutionary Girl Utena, secured the role in part because she did not read the character description before auditioning? Source: "ウテナ白書" [Utena Dossier]
    • ALT2: ... that director Kunihiko Ikuhara developed the cast of his anime series Revolutionary Girl Utena using the self-described principle of "never give a character only one personality"? Source: Revolutionary Girl Utena: 20th Anniversary Ultra Edition
    • Reviewed: Lee Chih-kai

Improved to Good Article status by Morgan695 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:16, 26 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Revolutionary Girl Utena; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y

QPQ:  N - Not done
Overall:   @Morgan695: Good article. AGF on sources I can't access. waiting on QPQ. Onegreatjoke (talk) 22:14, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

@Onegreatjoke: Hi, QPQ has been completed. Morgan695 (talk) 00:50, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
  Approve. Onegreatjoke (talk) 02:01, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Bonnie J. Dunbar

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Bonnie J. Dunbar (1987)

Improved to Good Article status by Hawkeye7 (talk). Nominated by Bruxton (talk) at 16:56, 26 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Bonnie J. Dunbar; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.

QPQ:  N - Not done
Overall:   @Hawkeye7: Good article. Onegreatjoke (talk) 22:08, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

Actually, the QPQ you listed doesn't seem to show that you did a QPQ. So I need a new one. Onegreatjoke (talk) 22:16, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
I did not nominate the article; Bruxton did, and supplied their own QPQ. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 23:26, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
@Onegreatjoke: Thanks for the review! Yes the QPQ is done. Interesting article, and good work @Hawkeye7:. congrats on the GA. Bruxton (talk) 23:50, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
  Didn't realize that the QPQ was supplied. Onegreatjoke (talk) 23:52, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

The Dismissal of the Greek Envoys

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Cover page of the Dismissal of the Greek Envoys (1578 first edition)

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self-nominated at 12:10, 26 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/The Dismissal of the Greek Envoys; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  •   Length, date, close paraphrase check, hook checks out. Image free on commons. --Soman (talk) 12:19, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

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Mycobacterium

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  • ... that Mycobacterium constantly remodels their cell wall layers to survive in stressful environments and avoid a host's immune defenses? Source: Dulberger CL, Rubin EJ, Boutte CC (January 2020). "The Mycobacterial Cell Envelope - A Moving Target". Nature Reviews. Microbiology. 18 (1): 47–59. doi:10.1038/s41579-019-0273-7. PMID 31728063. S2CID 208020338.

Improved to Good Article status by BluePenguin18 (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 20:56, 2 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Mycobacterium; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   Thank you for a good, clear article on a subject which is difficult for the great unwashed, including me. It is even good enough to convince me that I have both leprosy and tuberculosis (British humour). I look forward to seeing more articles of this calibre, from you.

  • In my opinion, there is no plagiarism in the article which is worth paraphrasing or putting in quotation marks, but because some of the phrases found by Earwig are a bit long, I shall put the link here in case someone else wants to double-check.
  • The citation given for the hook is offline but for the summary. The summary appears to support ALT0, but the bit supporting ALT1 must be in the offline section. So the hook citations are accepted in good faith.
  • Sorry, Onegreatjoke, but we need a full QPQ from you, as a nominator of experience and ability. The above QPQ is only for the hook.
    Summary: This article will be good to go when we have a full QPQ, please? Thank you. Storye book (talk) 17:28, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
@Storye book: Here's Template:Did you know nominations/John Cooper (New Jersey politician). Onegreatjoke (talk) 18:11, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
  Thank you, Onegreatjoke, for your prompt response. Good to go. Storye book (talk) 20:20, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
@Onegreatjoke: I can't find ALT1 supported in the source, could you provide a more precise page number or a quote? Thanks. Sojourner in the earth (talk) 22:17, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
@Onegreatjoke and Storye book: ALT0 seems very promising but shouldn't it be "Mycobacteria" plural...? Might be worth checking within the article text as well, as I think there's a bit of singular/plural pronoun/verb agreement confusion here. Cielquiparle (talk) 11:40, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
You're right. I noticed that too, but forgot to correct it. But to keep the hook's intended meaning, we should keep the species singular and have Mycobacterium ... its. Could someone please approve ALT0a for us? Thanks. Storye book (talk) 16:05, 10 March 2023 (UTC):
ALT0a ... that Mycobacterium constantly remodels its cell wall layers to survive in stressful environments and avoid a host's immune defenses? Storye book (talk) 16:05, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
@Storye book: You can approve it yourself as the reviewers, as it's only a minor modification. Thanks for fixing. Cielquiparle (talk) 16:10, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
Does "Mycobacterium" need to be italicized if it refers to the genus rather than an individual mycobacterium? I've struck ALT1 since there's been no response from Onegreatjoke. Sojourner in the earth (talk) 17:20, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
@Sojourner in the earth: and @Onegreatjoke: and @BluePenguin18: I agree that Mycobacterium should be in italics in the hook, because it is in italics in the article, and I have corrected that (thank you for alerting us about that). However, I have had to unstrike ALT1, at least for now, because Onegreatjoke has only had two days to respond to the question about it, and we have to remember that we are not all confined to barracks and chained to our computers all day, every day. Some people have to earn a living. Normally on DYK, we allow nominators and creators at least a week to reply, before assuming that they have resigned responsibility for the nomination. Besides, I do not agree that we cannot accept an offline citation in good faith. We are already accepting offline material, especially printed books and journals in good faith, and this citation is in that bracket. So I suggest that we give Onegreatjoke and BluePenguin a fair chance to reply, at least. Peace and love. Storye book (talk) 18:01, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
I guess you can strike Alt1 since I can't access the source personally so I'm unable to verify the hook myself. Onegreatjoke (talk) 18:07, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
  Thank you, Onegreatjoke. Good to go, with ALT0a. Storye book (talk) 18:11, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
I just want to clarify, for the record, that I wasn't assuming bad faith. I do have access to the source, and I couldn't find that information in it. Sojourner in the earth (talk) 18:19, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
This is my first ping about the article being nominated for a DYK, so thanks to Onegreatjoke for the submission and Storye book for the kind comments! I would suggest rephrasing the submission to "... that Mycobacterium bacterial species constantly remodel their cell wall layers to survive in stressful environments and avoid their host's immune defenses?" This provides a short description and clearly sets the subject as the plural species of this genus. Personally, I like the ALT1 phrasing, which I sourced from this 1999 EPA report (https://www.epa.gov/sites/default/files/2015-10/documents/mycobacteria-report.pdf), but either works with me! BluePenguin18 🐧 ( 💬 ) 18:41, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
  • ALT0b: ... that Mycobacterium bacterial species constantly remodel their cell wall layers to survive in stressful environments and avoid their host's immune defenses? (Suggested by BluePenguin18, above).
  •   Confirm green tick for ALT0b and ALT1. Note: the source for ALT1 has been replaced above and in the article by one recommended by the article's author. Storye book (talk) 19:09, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Larry Kennedy (baseball)

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Created by BeanieFan11 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:08, 2 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Larry Kennedy (baseball); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y

QPQ:  N - Not done
Overall:   @BeanieFan11: Good article. Just need a QPQ. Onegreatjoke (talk) 22:45, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

  Approve Onegreatjoke (talk) 03:57, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Left Behind (The Last of Us)

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Storm Reid
 
Bella Ramsey

Converted from a redirect by Rhain (talk). Self-nominated at 00:55, 28 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Left Behind (The Last of Us); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  N - n
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   @Rhain: I'll be honest. Alt0,1, and 4 are not interesting. While alts 2 and 3 could work as hooks i'm just not confident. Are there better hooks available? Onegreatjoke (talk) 21:44, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

@Onegreatjoke: This article didn't lend itself to the most interesting facts, unfortunately. How about these?
– Rhain ☔ (he/him) 01:04, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
  Approve i guess though, I don't find alt8 to be interesting at all. Also will assume that the copyvio listed at earwig for IMDB was a case of WP:MIRROR as it was in the past episodes. Onegreatjoke (talk) 04:40, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Frank Gadsby

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Created by Bungle (talk). Self-nominated at 21:30, 5 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Frank Gadsby; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: None required.

Overall:   Thank you for this article about a great character and stunt diver. I have done a quick copyedit of the article, for British English - that does not affect DYK. If I understand correctly, you have four existing DYKs (excluding Haldanes), so you do not have to do a QPQ. I believe there is an issue, not yet resolved, about the year of Gadsby's death. I'll add a discussion to the article talk page, but at the moment I don't believe that it affects DYK, because you have valid reasons for not knowing the date without paying for the birth certificate, and you are under no obligation to do that. It would probably be wise to be a bit more vague about the date in the article, though. Storye book (talk) 15:30, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for your review and kind words. It's a little awkward, given I write by default in British English(!), though I have recently become quite accustomed to writing in US English due to the type of articles I am editing, so I guess some involuntary crossover of spelling has occurred. I concur with your point about the DOB and have actioned this separately, hopefully to a satisfactory conclusion. Bungle (talk • contribs) 19:47, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
Thank you, Bungle, for tracking down the birth date, and for adding a great picture to the article. Storye book (talk) 11:06, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

2023 Huwara rampage

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Created by Iskandar323 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:14, 5 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/2023 Huwara rampage; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   Thank you for creating this article. It needed to be written. It is impossible for anyone, with any point of view or no point of view, to make this a neutral article, but within the requirements of WP and DYK, this article is written in a neutral manner, in my opinion.

  • Earwig does find a few short phrases without quote marks which match the source. However I don't think that that is enough to count as plagiarism. Nevertheless, because this is such a contentious subject, others may wish to check my decision: Earwig's comparison is here.
  • ALT0 has 197 characters, which I believe is justified in this case, because we need to be detailed and precise about what we are saying.

This is good to go. Storye book (talk) 16:45, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Kat (Gravity Rush)

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Improved to Good Article status by Zxcvbnm (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 21:12, 2 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Kat (Gravity Rush); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   Epicgenius (talk) 16:17, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Mira Nadon

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Created by Corachow (talk). Self-nominated at 14:04, 2 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Mira Nadon; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  •   hook, date, length, qpq, close paraphrase check checks out. --Soman (talk) 02:34, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Zenni Optical

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Moved to mainspace by Cunard (talk). Self-nominated at 06:02, 27 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Zenni Optical; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   Impressive taking something that was salted and turning it into an article! Appears to be: new enough (moved to mainspace February 27), long enough, doesn't seem overly promotional, and no copyvios detected; the hooks are cited and are interesting. A QPQ has been done. This appears ready to go! BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:18, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Milena Warthon

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Created by Wracking (talk). Self-nominated at 05:25, 27 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Milena Warthon; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  ?
QPQ: None required.

Overall:   @Wracking: Great work on the article and welcome to DYK! Seems to check out, long enough, reasonably sourced, and since you have 0 DYK credits you are thus exempt to follow up with QPQ until 5 nominations in. My one concern is that the current hook is not hook-y enough, while her accomplishment is very interesting, what I would potentially find more interesting is her creation of the pop andino genre. This is something that we could potentially workshop together but I would love to hear your feedback on the idea. Ornithoptera (talk) 06:24, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

  • @Ornithoptera: Thanks so much! I really appreciate your help. I thought the "silver seagull" as an award was pretty funny, but that's a good point! Anyway, here's some loosely associated thoughts that could make a DYK about Milena Warthon and pop andino:
As mentioned in the article (but not expanded on as much as it could be) her career started when she covered, then re-covered, "Tú y Yo" by Peruvian pop musician Gian Marco, the second time with Andean folk musicians. She's cited this as the impetus for her pop andino project.
She also has given her merch store/clothing line the same name (pop andino); like her music, it features popular styles combined with traditional Andean-style fabric. That detail's not included in the article (yet?). Also in the same realm of this, the song "Warmisitay" refers to traditional Andean dress (pollerita andina). (Sorry for being so long-winded!) Anyway, I've created another version:
ALT1: ... that 22-year-old singer Milena Warthon has created a new genre, pop andino, by fusing pop and Andean music?
Wracking 💬 07:03, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
  • @Wracking: You don't need to apologize at all for being long-winded! Your passion is very welcome here and I can see the vision. Please don't apologize at all! Now that you've explained the rationale for the original hook, I can see the vision for what you meant. Thus I feel comfortable in promoting both   ALT0 and ALT1. Ornithoptera (talk) 17:17, 28 February 2023 (UTC)


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Killing of Nathan Heidelberg

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Moved to mainspace by Daniel Case (talk). Self-nominated at 06:21, 2 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Killing of Nathan Heidelberg; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  • I shall review this. Due to its length and sensitive nature, I may be taking a couple of days over this review, so if my review looks unfinished, please be patient. Thank you. (Update: initial review now complete). Storye book (talk) 20:38, 8 March 2023 (UTC)


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  Y
  • Interesting:  Y
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   Thank you for this article, which, sadly, had to be written.

  • The article is fully sourced, and I accept that the blockquote and the bullet points have a citation above or below, which covers them.
  • Earwig finds a lot of similarities, but they are either common short phrases, or quotations which are clearly marked in the article. So no problem there.
  • ALT0: This hook works well, but in many countries, "cop" is disrespectful, and this incident has mourning families still living. I would accept ALT0 if "cop" could be changed to "police officer". Normally I would request that only a short representative part of the hook should be linked to the article name, but in this case, which is a shocking subject, I think that the long link needs to stand out like that. Hook cited in article.
  • ALT1: This hook works fine, and it's cited in the article.
  • ALT2: Misleading. Although this hook is true, and it is cited, it distracts from the main point and subject matter of the article, If you just read the hook and don't click on it, it looks as if the officer could have had a heart attack or something. So no.
  • ALT3: Misleading. The hook is ambiguous - does it mean the same local church building and community - or just the same religious denomination so that maybe the two men had never previously met? This hook might work if it said that the men had actually met and knew each other, being part of the same church community, but the article doesn't not say that. So no.
  • ALT4: Too complex, long and distracting with detail. 181 characters. If there were no other hook, this one would have to be acceptable because it's true, but there are more hooky hooks here.
  • ALT5: True, but it distracts from the distress caused to all parties in this incident, while at the same time using the disrespectful (in some countries) word, "cop". When we read the article, we have compassion for all parties, But this hook seems to belie that compassion (even though that is not its intentiion).. So no.
Summary

I have struck out ALTs 2, 3 and 5 (but please reinstate them if you disagree). That leaves ALTs 0, 1 and 4. I believe that ALT1 is the best because it is direct, easy to take in, and it represents the main point of the article accurately. If "cop" could be replaced with "police officer", then I believe that this nomination could be good to go with ALTs 0, 1 and 4, with strong preference for ALT0. Storye book (talk) 22:04, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

  Done My preference was ALT0 always, anyway. Daniel Case (talk) 02:51, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
Thank you, Daniel Case.
  with ALTs 0, 1 and 4, with strong preference for ALT0. Storye book (talk) 09:23, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Mother (Meghan Trainor song)

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Created by MaranoFan (talk). Self-nominated at 16:48, 6 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Mother (Meghan Trainor song); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  •   Well, this is an interesting one! The article is new, having been created six days before nomination. At c. 2500 characters, it is also long enough. Neither Earwig nor I could find any copyright violation. The article cites sources perfectly and, commendably, includes criticism as well (which, I think, is not often the case). I find the hook to be the best among the present nominations; it literally hooked me into reading and reviewing the article, though I would otherwise not be particularly interested in the subject. The hook is concise, well-formatted, and cited. QPQ is done, so this is good to go! Surtsicna (talk) 19:06, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

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